Vienna MIR Pro for Jazz (Great Rieger Organ too!)

[David Kissam]

When I was trying to decide whether to buy Vienna MIR Pro, I couldn't find many examples of it being used for jazz. The VSL demo for "In A Sentimental Mood" and the VSL Youtube video "VSL Goes Jazz, by Brandon Wilkins" were the main ones I found. Hearing these played a part in my decision to buy it.

Anyway, I just finished a song using MIR Pro and I think it turned out well, so I'm sharing it here:

The instruments were all recorded dry and then placed in Synchron Stage. I've never been truly happy with a reverb plugin until now. The sense of space that MIR provides seems unmatched. Also, the way it handles panning is intuitive and somewhat magical to me.

I also used Great Rieger Organ in this song; I think it sounds amazing, and it's a joy to use.

[Paul]

Hi,

Thanks for posting! A refreshing approach!

You'll find some more "jazz-oriented pieces" if you check out the demo by Nicholas DeCrescent => Select him as a composer in our MUSIC Section!

Best,
Paul

[Dietz]

Thanks for sharing, David!

If you're interested in other jazz productions where MIR Pro has been used as the primary tool for panning and spatialization, here are some examples I've recorded and mixed in this genre over the past few years (Spotify links ahead):

-> JBBG: "True Stories"

-> Kahiba: "The Sixth Sense"

-> C. P. Auer: "Songs I Like" (... this one I have mixed only).

Enjoy! 😊

[David Kissam]

Hi Paul,

I've heard some of those demos already, when I was exploring various VSL instruments.  The "jazz-oriented" demos are often the most useful to me.

[David Kissam]

Hi Dietz,

Thanks for pointing me towards some of your work.  I was aware that you used MIR for jazz, but I hadn't heard any examples yet.  I don't have a Spotify account but I was able to find some of the first two on Youtube.  The sound and mixing are excellent.  I'd love to know more about how you used MIR here, if you don't mind sharing.  When you say it was the primary tool for panning and spatialization, does that mean you're mostly using the early reflections (by turning down the reverb time in MIR)?  Also, what mic array do you use in MIR?

[Dietz]

I'm pretty sure I adjusted a lot of parameters during the mix of each piece, but I can say with certainty that I used the Venues with little or no reduction applied to their natural reverb length.

I tend to use some sort of M/S setup for the Main Microphone, while  I often start with two hyper-cardioids pointing towards the back of the hall for the Secondary Mic.

... keep in mind that these were full commercial productions, not "pure" MIR Pro demos, so in addition to MIR, numerous tools were used, such as delays and echoes, algorithmic reverbs and so on. 

Kind regards,

[David Kissam]

Thanks for your reply, Dietz.

Another question:  How does the reverb time control in MIR Pro work?  Is it just fading out the reverb earlier or does it scale the whole IR down so it's shorter?  Or is it something more mysterious?  :)