VI Brass vs Dimension Brass

[PaoloT]

Hi,

I'm trying to simplify everything I can simplify. One of the possible suspects are the brass. The classic VI Brass and the SYzd Dimension Brass can both serve per se, or as a support for the Synchron Brass.

I wonder if the SYzd Brass can replace the VI Brass, when they exist in both collections. They obviously can when using the instruments as parts of an ensemble. But what about their use as soloists, at least in some parts of an orchestral piece?

I find that SYzd Dimension Brass work very well as soloists. Not yet sure if the bleed from their companions can be masked by reverb, or even compliment it. I think so, but need some more attentive listening.

What do you think? Can I promote Dimension Brass to soloists (when not in a pure Synchron context), or the old VI ones should keep their place as the kings? Do you see an advantage, in terms of purity of sound and articulations, over the Dimensions?

Paolo

[plowman]

Hello PaoloT, 

 

What follows is some, but perhaps not all of the evidence, with a decision to follow. 

 

This list assumes that VI Dimension Brass and Synchron-ized Dimension Brass are identical. If our magnanimous friends at VSL snuck in bonus patches in the conversion, those sounds might not be represented here. 

 

Evidence

 

VI Horns offer both a Viennese Horn and a Triple Horn. Though Dimension Horns are playable solo, I don't recall them distinguishing per type of horn.

 

Dimension Horns have three variations of light dynamics not found in the VI Triple Horn. 

 

The VI Triple Horn has three pfp variations and two strong dynamic patches, all missing in Dimension Horns. 

 

The Viennese Horn has ten patches dedicated to dynamic no vibrato sounds. All are missing from Dimension Horns. 

 

The Viennese Horn has recorded interval trills of a major and minor second. The Dimension Horns have no recorded trills -- only performance trills. 

 

 

Dimension Trumpets have three variations of light dynamics not found in the VI Trumpet. 

 

The VI Trumpet has two pfp variations and two strong dynamic patches, all missing in Dimension Trumpets. 

 

The VI Trumpet has six patches dedicated to dynamic no vibrato sounds. All are missing from Dimension Trumpets. 

 

The VI Trumpet has recorded interval trills of a major and minor second. The Dimension Trumpets have no recorded trills -- only performance trills. 

 

 

Dimension Trombones have a blare sample not found in solo trombones. 

 

Dimension Trombones have a performance trill not found in the solos. 

 

Again, Dimension Trombones have three variations of light dynamics not found in the VI solo trombones. 

 

VI Trombone has two strong dynamic patches not found in Dimension Trombones. 

 

Again, there are four no vibrato dynamics for VI Trombones (normal, mute A and B) and three strong no vibrato dynamic patches in the normal VI Trombone. Dimension Trombones do not have these.

 

Verdict

 

With deep empathy for your desire to simplify your template and the frustration of so many choices, it is probably still best to keep both libraries resident. 

 

Plowman

[PaoloT]

@plowman said:

With deep empathy for your desire to simplify your template and the frustration of so many choices, it is probably still best to keep both libraries resident.

Plowman, so be it! We still need all the jewels in our crown!

If the Classic Brass we’re finally Synchronized, I could create other ones of those hybrids I love so much — for example, Dimension Horns with trills from the Classic Triple Horn!

Paolo

[Rubens Tubenchlak]

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Plowman, so be it! We still need all the jewels in our crown!

If the Classic Brass we’re finally Synchronized, I could create other ones of those hybrids I love so much — for example, Dimension Horns with trills from the Classic Triple Horn!

Paolo

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Paolo,

how do you feel now about the subject? I mean, after Synchron Brass addition.
By the way, dimension strings would be perfect if we could have recorded trills as well. Unfortunately, I could never have a good result with performed trills...