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  • Up and Down bow

    Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    Hello

    I would like to have some clarification about using the Up and Down Bow switch (A0 and B0)

    Is it the way it has to be used ?

    Set Legato
    Up bow + note
    dow bow + note
    Up bow + note
    Up bow + note
    Up bow + note
    Set Staccato
    Up bow + note
    dow bow + note
    Up bow + note
    dow bow + note
    Up bow + note
    Up bow + note
    Thanks in advance for your help
     
    Cyril
  • M
    M

    Hi Cyril

    Interesting question, I hope someone will answer your question.
  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    Hello

     

    I misunderstand the English, A0 and B0 are not made to moke UP and Down the Bow
  • J
    J

    I thought VSL didn't record up and and down bow samples?

    But I could be wrong.

    BTW, a long time ago I remember somebody posting a method for faking bow changes.  You might want to do a forum search.  
  • S
    S

    I'm very sure I saw a post by Herb saying how he did this in Vienna Instruments. It was a feature of the Opus libraries that you could choose which bow you wanted to start a passage, but from what I remember, Herb did outline how this was achieved in the new vi's. But I'm sorry, I'm not sure where that particular post was, and I canot remember the date he posted it.

    I think if you could find his name and do a post search on what he has put on the forum, and you may find it there. It should still be there I'm very sure.

    best,

     

    Steve  :-)
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi Steva Martin, 

    I'd be VERY surprised if you found such a post. We did NOT differenciate between up-and downbow when recording the strings. 

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  • J
    J
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    last edited

    @Paul said:

    Hi Steva Martin, 

    I'd be VERY surprised if you found such a post. We did NOT differenciate between up-and downbow when recording the strings. 

    Best, 
    Paul

    Maybe it was Beat Kaufmann but i do remember somebody posting a method to simulate bow changes.  I remember it because I was interested in doing the same thing but the method described seemed like too much work just to simulate a bow change so I disregarded it.
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi, 

    Ah, that's a misunderstanding on my side: Yes, you can do bow-changes with sustans (especially helpful for the unlooped Solo Strings legatos), by holding the sustain pedal and retriggering the note you are holding. 

    Best,
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  • W
    W

    There was discussion about this before and I believe the reason VSL did not record these specifically is it makes no audible difference whether there is an upbow or a downbow (in an orchestral setting especially).  Unless they are deliberately emphasized - as in heavily accented successive downbows (which are available in the sfz articulations).  Everything players try to do with bowing is to make different bows match each other, not stand out as different attacks.  Otherwise all passages of successive short notes would lurch along clumsily instead of play smoothly.