Hello!

@vscorpio: An envelope generator is currently not planned, but we hear you.

Violas are integrated in the Strings patches. If you want all instruments (or sections) available as solo instruments, you might be interested in our Special Editions or Instrument collections.

@Olivier:

1) Samples from different instruments are layered in different octaves to have a bigger overall range. The samples you menation are not left out. For example in the keyboard range C2 to B3 of the patch "13 WW Long" you hear samples from C1 to B2 and samples from C2 to B3 layered. The higher you get in this range, the softer the suboctave will get. From C4 on the suboctave is not present.

4) You can find the marcato articulation under Long notes (switch A#0) / Marcato (switch C#1). The marcato attack of this articulation can further be controlled by CC3.

5) Legato Mode affects all performance interval patches (that's the solo instrument patches in Vienna Smart Orchestra). This option cannot be set individually for slots in Synchron Player. It's possible to control the option with CC indeed. Simply add it on the Control page.

Best regards,
Andi

Hello,

Thank you for your help.

1 - effective play range from C1 to C7

I perhaps do not explain me in a way that is not enough clear, please, read carefully, play and listen the note you get.  I use the Patch "Regular Mapping - no Bass", long articulation.

Instrument   Keyboard -> Note I hear

String           C1                C1

String          C4                 C4

String          C7                 C7

Brass           C1                C1

Brass          C4                 C4

Brass          C7                 C7

WW             C1                C1

WW             C4                C5

WW             C7                C8

Instrument   Keyboard Range   ->Note I hear Range

String                   C1 - C7            C1 - C7

Brass                   C1 - C7             C1 - C7

WW                      C1 - C7             C1 - C8

My conclusion, It is not consistent between the three sections, 1 octave is missing for the woodwinds.

There is no relation between the notes you play on the keyboard and notes you hear for the woodwinds, unlike the Strings and Brass.

My question : Will you update the woodwinds to have them in coherence with the Strings and Brass or will you keep things like this ?

Hello Olivier!

Sorry, I have not been precise enough and had a little mistake in my previous post.

I will call middle C C4. That's our default naming convention.

The patch "13 WW 0B Long" has a keyboard range from C2 to C6.

From C2 to B2 you will hear C2 to B2.

From C3 to B3 you will hear C3 to B3 and C4 to B4 coming in. The higher you will get in this octave, the stronger the notes from octave 4 will come in. From key C4 on, you will hear the notes from octave 5. No octave is missing, but the keyboard octave from C3 to C4 covers two octaves in pitch.

The overlapping has been done to get a bigger range into the patch range. Otherwise we would loose the high range of the Piccolo flute. So it's not possible that every pitch has it's individual key. This will not be updated. Please note that the Vienna Smart Orchestra is a tool for sketching and playing a full orchestra live. It's not ment for having all instruments available in full detail. That's what our other libraries are for.

Best,
Andi

Hi Paul,

I loved your demo on Smart Orchestra and I too was surprised not to see the €95 discount automatically displayed in my basket - I have SE v1& SE v2 of Woodwinds  and Woodwinds plus.

Please can you help?

Many thanks

Nik

Hi Nik,

I checked your account and could only find registrations for SE Volume 1 Woodwinds... the other sections are not registered (and you need all sections of SE Volume 1 (Strings, Brass, Woowdins, Percussion&More) to qualify for the discount).

Best,
Paul

HI Paul,

Oh okay, I see. How does the SE full bundle compare sound-wise to the Smart Orchestra?

Thanks for the quick reply!

Im a bit confused on the pricing... I own the license for the Special Edition core 1-4, is the price staying at 95 Euros or will it increase after the introuductory offer?

I am VERY interested in this from the perspective of the FX and pads. Alot of stuff Im working on lately is more ethereal stuff, and its great now that I can use the library I have chosen to invest in to finally be able to do that. Would love to see the pads and fx expanded even more :)

I get alot of people that ask me, "Why Vienna?" My answer is always simple. Its the software. Let's be real. Most soundfonts today only offer a subtle difference in sound between the different libraries. To my ears, Spitfire, 8dio, Cinesamples, EastWest, they are all very similar. Vienna has a more dry sound, more unique and flexible in that regard, but that comes at a cost of more processing required to get that sound you want, and it is totally possible to get Vienna to sound similar to these other libraries with some tweaking. However, the thing that cant be beat is the software. The Play software from EastWest stinks. Kontakt is even worse. Both get in the way of my creativity. Heck, I still cant figure out how to get articulation changes to work correctly in Play from EastWest and I have been a subscriber to EastWest forever. Vienna Instruments, its so simple. load the instrument, create a matrix, drop the articulations in, Im writing music for that instruments in a minute after loading the sound. I only wish you guys would consider doing a DAW. Ill bet you could simplify the entire chain, while still providing the features necessary to write good music.

Synchron looks to be a simplified version of VI, which in itself, isnt necessarily a bad thing. I think the only major thing Id miss is the humanize function that VI offers. This subtle effect really brings a human touch to compositions. I really want to play with it, but being that my car was totalled, and, I have a final school payment coming up in the next week (Im a student), money is a bit tight at the moment... Hence why Im worried about whether the Special Edition pricing is going to change...

Hi!

@Nik: Check out the demos, it should be pretty clear. But the main advantage is the playability!

@littleweirdo: The price for Smart Orchestra will be increased after the introductory offer. And we're of course working on more FX. 

Thanks for the praise of our softwatre, I'll share that with the team as well!

Synchron Player simply opens new possibilities for different kinds of products, and we are only at version 1.1 right now... 

Also: Be careful on the roads!!

Best, 
Paul

« And we're of course working on more FX. »

I an not sure more FX are useful (exception is transcient shaper for percussion).

When I play sound from the FX presets, they quickly become boring. The sound is static, nothing happend.

What is missing is modulation.

Have a look at the way to modulate the sound with :

• Izotope Iris 2
• Heavyocity Gravity Pack

There are few effects available, but many ways to modulate the sound.

Iris 2 contains the classic Enveloppe and LFO and Gravity contains some motions sequencers.

The result is incredible and it's easy to create animated sound design.

Stop working on more FX and add modulation to the FX.

Hi Olivin, 

That's an INCREDIBLE idea, we would have never thought of that!

Best, 
Paul

What's the mixer / output sections setup on this?

thanks

Hi Carl,

Check out the videos, please.

All sections (Strings, Woodwdinds, Brass, Percussion) are controllable on separate volume faders, and additionally you get the solo legato instruments on separate faders.

Best,
Paul

No online manual pdf?

I watched but only heard mention of an internal mixer, balancing, not how separate outputs are available for user routing. Also no mention of how it operates inside of VEPro, MIR or with existing VSL libraries.

Hi Carl, 

I can send you the Synchron Player pdf, please send a quick mail to support@vsl.co.at.

In short words: Flexible routing, also with VE PRO. 

Best, 
Paul

@Paul said:

Hi Carl, 

I can send you the Synchron Player pdf, please send a quick mail to support@vsl.co.at.

In short words: Flexible routing, also with VE PRO. 

Best, 
Paul

Thanks Paul,

just purchased so I should have it shortly!

So I tested the lib for some hours and I absolutely like it!

Great playability out of the box, easy to use and easy to learn, but still offering an enormous flexibility (for these amount of articulations).

Great Work VSL!

P.S.: This is how I wished Synchron strings could be (advertised with Beauty of Simplicity and slogans like this).

Paul,

This is a tremendous innovation to small users like me. Wonderful introduction to the vast opportunuties to VSL. If you wish, can you substitute any other VSL instrument into VSO. eg the Appassionata strings into the strings etc etc across the board?

Yours,

Patrick

.....and following on from this, can you use MIR to change the instruments around the stage? Actually, can you place the instruments around the stage in the first place? And use Vienna Suite as well? I'm getting carried away but you can get my drift. This is a wonderful introduction to VSL. I'm sold. I am not a professional composer. I'm too old.

Patrick

You guys might want to consider updating your Synchron player description page, and perhaps, even link to the products it works with...

https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Software/Synchron_Player