@Paul said:

I can only say: BRAVO! 🎵

To begin with: I totally agree with that!

I have also a question: I see, that Guy used for solo wind instruments Vel.X. I don't hear a unnatural change from one velocity layer to another. Is that because there is just one velocity layer in this library for the solo wind instruments or does the change from one layer to another work so smoothly?

Hi, 

The change works so smoothly 😊

Best, 
Paul 

This looks very promising for me as a Live Keyboarder! I couldn't find any Details on RAM Usage or CPU Load. How much RAM does a full Orchestra Patch take? How is the CPU consumption of the Synchron Player in general, compared to Vienna Instruments? Best Regards from Berlin Steffen

HI Steffen, 

We have stream-lined this one. With an SSD and a Preload size of 4096 Samples, I need 281 MB for the 18181 Samples that are loaded with the whole orchestra. 

Of course multiple streams will tax the CPU a bit, and if you bring in Velocity Xfade, that will also "cost" a bit, but all in all, this orchestra is pretty easy to handle. 

Comparisons with VI are hard. What would be your basis?

Best, 
Paul

I have SE Complete, and when I installed this it offered to install with no samples. That didn’t make any sense to me, so I installed the samples anyway. Does Smart Orchestra somehow reuse the samples from SE, so I can safely delete the SO samples and get that disk space back? I only played with this for a few minutes but I think it’s brilliant, really looking forward to digging in more.

281MB sounds great! my basis for a comparison: making a template in Vienna Ensemble with a Vienna Instruments Instance for each Section. best, Steffen

So, I am a bit confused by this. Can I use the Smart Orchestra in Pro Tools to point MIDI channels to a remote VEP Server on a PC as I now use my Special Editions and Synchron Yamaha? –Or can I only run the Smart Orchestra on a local machine in a non-server instance of VEP 6?

Are these sample libraries of equal or better quality than those of my Special Editions and Epic Orchestra? Or is the purpose of the Smart Orchestra is that of a mock-up/sketch tool, for a fast and low-CPU usage workflow?

I'm having a problem with the Smart Orchestra.....

Loaded up e licenser....placed the activation code and the license in on the dongle. 

I downloaded the files, downloaded the Synchron Player, and I can't work out what to do next???

Everything seems to be there, I just can't seem to open the player with the Orchestra inside. There are no specific instructions I can find, as to whether there is some order to make the Smart Orchestra work properly, but in my case..nothing happens, and it's annoying. 

And there's no plug-in at all in Logic Pro X!!  

Please help!!!

 

By the way. I did make sure everything was up to date. I just cannot find anything that says, do 1), 2) and 3) and everything will work. We all have busy lives, and we're not all very experienced users, please bear that in mind, when writing your manuals which are supposed to support the software. Thank you. 

Hi!

@patmaddox: The new Synchron Installer always lets you choose if you want to install "only" the patch information and which part of the samples (usually multiple mic positions are available). Don't let that confuse you.

Synchron Player can only load samples for the products that are designed for it.

@Steffen: You mean a fully loaded SE, with all Volumes?

@JamesPDX:
Can I use the Smart Orchestra in Pro Tools to point MIDI channels to a remote VEP Server on a PC as I now use my Special Editions and Synchron Yamaha?

=> Yes, Synchron Player is just_another_plug-in.

Or can I only run the Smart Orchestra on a local machine in a non-server instance of VEP 6?

=> No, you are free to use the Smart Orchestra in any host that support AU/VST/AAX Native.

Are these sample libraries of equal or better quality than those of my Special Editions and Epic Orchestra?

=> Same quality, different general idea, taking advantage of the new possibilities in the Synchron Player.

Or is the purpose of the Smart Orchestra is that of a mock-up/sketch tool, for a fast and low-CPU usage workflow?

=> You can use it any way you like. But it makes you work faster, no doubt.

@MartinN:

1) Download and install the latest eLCC.
=> Use your activation code to downlöoad your license onto your eLicenser key.

2) Download and install the latest Synchron Player and the latest Download Manager.

3) Download your Library Download File and double-click it. This will start the Download Manager.A detailed description of the process can be found in the Download Manager Manual (with screenshots).

4) After the download has finished, installation will start => choose a location on a SSD drive for best results.

Done. Any troubles: Contact support@vsl.co.at, best with some screenshots.

Best,
Paul

Hello

I have bought VSO.

I have install Latest ELC, Latest Vienna Ensemble Pro and VSO files and Synchron player

Where is the manuel to use VSO with VE or VE PRO Standalone or Logic

 

Thanks for your help

 

Best

 

Cyril

Did you manage to make it work ?

What is the trick ?

It will be great to have a standalone version 😉

@ollecello said:

Hi,

I downloaded Vienna Smart Orchestra and the latest Player Software. Both installed but I am not able to run the Vienna Smart Orchestra nor to start the player. Vienna Smart Orchestra is registered in the eLicense Key. For the player, I cannot find it in the eLicense-USB-Key. Am I missing a thing here or do I need some other software or libraries to run VSO? Thanks for helping.

 

Paul

Just Insert Plugin and choose Synchron player. What's so hard about that?

There's no standalone version.

Hi Bill

Where is the plug-in

Where do you insert the plug-in ?

Thanks in advance for your help

Best

 

Cyril

Hi Cyril, 

Synchron Player is simply another AU plug-in, should appear in your sequencer right away. 

Simple workaround to use it as a standalone: Vienna Ensemble / PRO. 

If it doesn't show up in Logic, try to validate it manually in Logic's Plug-in Manager. 

And if that doesn't work, you can celar your Audio Unit cache like this (it will make Logic rebuild it's plug-in Au cache): 

1) In the Finder, choose Go > Go to Folder from the menu.

2) Type ~/Library/Caches in the "Go to the folder" field.

3) Press the Go button. Remove the "com.apple.audiounits.cache" file. Remove the ~/Library/Caches/AudioUnitCache folder.

EDIT: Are you on High Sierra, by any chance?

Best, 
Paul

Just watched your YT videos... is the smart orchestra a new front end to the Cube instruments or are these different samples?

Thanks,

Stefan

https://forum.vsl.co.at/topic/50300/Installing Vienna Smart Orchestra In Logic/277399

Hi Paul, thanks for the info.

However I did not realy understood what VSO is.

Is it just a setup utilizing already purchased libraries or you packed the Syncroon library in to a simple new box?

Will I download a new library (samples) or only software which combines older and new samples?

In the sample content there is no number indicating the volume in GB as usual. Therefore my questions.

Please advise

Yannis

Is there a Sibelius sound set for this? I'd like to be able to specify e.g. strings, winds, brass in the mixer and then use articulation markings in the score.

There's not much here, just a few simple key switches, so I can take a stab at making a sound set if there's nothing available or coming soon. I figured I'd check in with the experts first though :)

1) Is it possible to run Smart Orchestra and Special Edition simultaneously in Cubase? To be able to have a layer done with VSO "topped" or enriched by certain instruments, etc. of VSE?

2) Am i forced (in VSO) to have (for example the strings or strings+wood) sections always play unisono (violins, violas, celli, bass, ...) or can i do arrangements with separate voices (v, v, c, b, ...)?

Or do i maybe have a conceptual misunderstanding (of VSO) here in both questions?

Thanks for  advice,

Andy

Hi,

@Yannis Saoulis:

1) Is it just a setup utilizing already purchased libraries or you packed the Syncroon library in to a simple new box?
=> It's a simple new box.

2) Will I download a new library (samples) or only software which combines older and new samples?
=> It is a new library.

3) In the sample content there is no number indicating the volume in GB as usual. Therefore my questions.
=> Here you go, 9.92 GB on your harddrive (4 GB to download)

@patmaddox: Not sure if the VSO Soundset is already in the current Sibelius Soundsets Download, but I know that Andreas has been working on it.

@songdiver:

1) Is it possible to run Smart Orchestra and Special Edition simultaneously in Cubase? To be able to have a layer done with VSO "topped" or enriched by certain instruments, etc. of VSE?

=>Absolutely. No problem.

2) Am i forced (in VSO) to have (for example the strings or strings+wood) sections always play unisono (violins, violas, celli, bass, ...) or can i do arrangements with separate voices (v, v, c, b, ...)?

=> All sections are pre-arranged and come with different involvement of the bass instruments (2 lowest octaves with additional bass instruments, 1 lowest octave and no bass instruments).
=> Additionally, you can use the Solo Legato instruments, also for the violins.

Best,
Paul