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  • Synchron Player Rulesets for Notion6

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    I've created rulesets for Notion 6 for Synchron Player with Synchron Strings.

    Some creativity was required as the Synchron Strings don't contain complete articulations and techniques (no spiccatto, no staccatto accents, no tenutos, no detaches, etc.).  I'd be interested to know if others have other approaches to reproducing some of these.

    As "prules" is not an allowed file type for posting to the VSL community boards, you can find them here:

    https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.php?f=169&t=30823&p=176818#p176818

    Michael
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    Thanks Michael. I'll try these out and report back. Let me see if I can come up with the other articulations. Might take several days, got a full plate at the moment. I did build a TouchOSC interface for Synchron Piano, I might do the same for Synchron Strings. If you want a copy let me know.

    Thanks again! Always enjoy when someone makes Prules. Saves me time!

    Steve Steele
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    stevesteele.com

    Regards, Steve Steele https://www.stevesteele.com
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    Thanks Michael,

    It's been so long I've forgoton the key combo for inseting the Rule set in a score!

     

    Bill

    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
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    @Bill said:

    Thanks Michael,

    It's been so long I've forgoton the key combo for inseting the Rule set in a score!

     

    Bill

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    Nice to see you here, Bill!
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    Thank you Very much! :  )

    Really appreciated

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    Does anyone know if there is a way to also include the keyswitches during export? (e.g. for use/import of midi into a DAW)

    Also when I try to use the Send to Studio One 3 (ScoreTransfer from Notion 6 to S1) the articulation switches/changes seem to be lost (Also checked the other CCs/changes)

    Somehow I cant find the (simulated, great idea!) spiccatto in Notion. Could anyone be so kind and tell me where I can find it?

     

    Thanks a lot
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    @Arsenal said:

    Thank you Very much! :  )

    Really appreciated

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    Does anyone know if there is a way to also include the keyswitches during export? (e.g. for use/import of midi into a DAW)

    Also when I try to use the Send to Studio One 3 (ScoreTransfer from Notion 6 to S1) the articulation switches/changes seem to be lost (Also checked the other CCs/changes)

    Somehow I cant find the (simulated, great idea!) spiccatto in Notion. Could anyone be so kind and tell me where I can find it?

     

    Thanks a lot

    You're welcome!  I have the same problem, I've submitted a support ticket to Presonus regarding the issue.  I think something may have gotten broken with the recent Notion 6 update for Studio One 4.  

    I haven't tested, but the switches should export to MIDI AFAIK.

    In my ruleset, spiccato is triggered by the staccatissimo symbol, but I see that's double assigned.  My bad!  I've just changed mine to be triggered by Staccatissimo Accent.  You can assign it to any symbol you like using the ruleset editor.

    Enjoy!

    Michael
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    Just got this response from Presonus, haven't yet tested.:

    Hi Michael,

    I just did some testing with this scenario and it seems that if you export your file to MIDI and then manually drag that MIDI file into Studio One, you will get the keyswitches.  If you just send note data from Notion to Studio One, it will drop the keyswitches.  Let me know if you are seeing the same thing.

    Best Regards,
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    @Tensivity said:

    Just got this response from Presonus, haven't yet tested.:

    Hi Michael,

    I just did some testing with this scenario and it seems that if you export your file to MIDI and then manually drag that MIDI file into Studio One, you will get the keyswitches.  If you just send note data from Notion to Studio One, it will drop the keyswitches.  Let me know if you are seeing the same thing.

    Best Regards,

    I can confirm it works this way in Reaper.
    You'll notice a keyswitch value for every note in the score, due to be able to play the right articuation at any position you'll start playback.
    Hope it helps.
    Cheers

    VI Special Edition 1-3, Reaper, MuseScore 3, Notion 3 (collecting dust), vst flotsam and jetsam
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    @Tensivity said:

    Just got this response from Presonus, haven't yet tested.:

    Hi Michael,

    I just did some testing with this scenario and it seems that if you export your file to MIDI and then manually drag that MIDI file into Studio One, you will get the keyswitches.  If you just send note data from Notion to Studio One, it will drop the keyswitches.  Let me know if you are seeing the same thing.

    Best Regards,

    I can confirm it works this way in Reaper.
    You'll notice a keyswitch value for every note in the score, due to be able to play the right articuation at any position you'll start playback.
    Hope it helps.
    Cheers

    Thanks, Fabio.  I got it to work with Cubase, but not with Studio One, but I've just looked at it briefly.
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    Strangely it does indeed work with Reaper, but not S1/Notion

    I tried both variants, "Send to Studio One" and simply midi importing, with Studio One (3.5.6.46910 OSX) and Notion (6.4.462 OSX)

    Can anyone provide any further insight or ideas?

    Thank you
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    @Arsenal said:

    Strangely it does indeed work with Reaper, but not S1/Notion

    I tried both variants, "Send to Studio One" and simply midi importing, with Studio One (3.5.6.46910 OSX) and Notion (6.4.462 OSX)

    Can anyone provide any further insight or ideas?

    Thank you

    I responded to the tech support reply.  Still waiting...

    Will update if I hear back.
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    @Arsenal said:

    Strangely it does indeed work with Reaper, but not S1/Notion

    I tried both variants, "Send to Studio One" and simply midi importing, with Studio One (3.5.6.46910 OSX) and Notion (6.4.462 OSX)

    Can anyone provide any further insight or ideas?

    Thank you

    I responded to the tech support reply.  Still waiting...

    Will update if I hear back.

     

    Thank you very much : )

    Thought about there could be some sort of automated midi filter working internally, like "filter programm CC, everything under c1", but I could not find any information on this subject. I got the idea from knowing that filtering is possible with external midi devices.
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    @Arsenal said:

    Strangely it does indeed work with Reaper, but not S1/Notion

    I tried both variants, "Send to Studio One" and simply midi importing, with Studio One (3.5.6.46910 OSX) and Notion (6.4.462 OSX)

    Tech Support says "manually drag that MIDI file into Studio One". Same as I do in Reaper. Guess this why it works – I'm not a S1 user…

    Hope it helps. Cheers.

    VI Special Edition 1-3, Reaper, MuseScore 3, Notion 3 (collecting dust), vst flotsam and jetsam
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    @Arsenal said:

    Strangely it does indeed work with Reaper, but not S1/Notion

    I tried both variants, "Send to Studio One" and simply midi importing, with Studio One (3.5.6.46910 OSX) and Notion (6.4.462 OSX)

    Tech Support says "manually drag that MIDI file into Studio One". Same as I do in Reaper. Guess this why it works – I'm not a S1 user…

    Hope it helps. Cheers.

     

    No, does not work in Studio One. Yes in Reaper

    Too bad, but thank you anyway : )
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    Here's the fix for the issue of keyswitches not appearing in S1 drag and drop, which fixes the issue:

    Hi Michael,

    I heard back from our Product Manager and he recommends setting the option to "send note-offs" in the rules editor prior to sending to Studio One.  This may be why my export was working and yours was not.  He told me that some DAWs require this option as others do not.  Let us know what you find out.
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