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    @Another User said:

    And again ... the Brass is a completely different point of view, because here we will get what we are looking for: And that is POWER! I am convinced that the Horns for example will be even more powerful than Epic Horns with so many Mics in the Hall. Let‘s see.

    Funny idea of "Power".

    OK I am glad that VSL is not Spitfire trying to sell their stuff with a kind of hypnotic boreout demos.

    But still for me the "Power" of orchestral music is not its pure loudness (go for a decent compressor if this is all you are looking for), but the variety of musical convincing and touching colors. And to have more Velocity layers and more reasonable options to blend different kinds of samples is in my eyes the most important "Power" we could expect from a good Synchronseries (- meanwhile that of course includes, that strong colors and not only those of large Brass-sections will be more convincing to.)
  • LAJL
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    Mr. Fahl, what_I_mean is ... Spitfire recorded a set of 3 Players but made a 2-1-Split to give users flexibility. Imagine ... If the VSL SY Woodwinds 1 came out and you would see that they only recorded 3 Players simultaneously without split ... Would you buy it? I would not, even with all the mics. Are you still using the 3-Sections or are you combining like f.ex. Flute 1 with Flute 2 and historic Flute?? I like to combine. For me combining individual Players has outdated the 3-Sections. (Edit: I am speaking only about Woodwinds) But it depends on what everyone wants and likes.
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    @LAJ said:

    Mr. Fahl, what_I_mean is ... Spitfire recorded a set of 3 Players but made a 2-1-Split to give users flexibility. Imagine ... If the VSL SY Woodwinds 1 came out and you would see that they only recorded 3 Players simultaneously without split ... Would you buy it? I would not, even with all the mics. Are you still using the 3-Sections or are you combining like f.ex. Flute 1 with Flute 2 and historic Flute?? I like to combine. For me combining individual Players has outdated the 3-Sections. But it depends on what everyone wants and likes.

    Of course in the Cube you always have had patches with Woodwing-Soloist and patches with 3 Players so there is nothing new with having the choice in Spitfire you already have had in Cube and of course will have in a Synchron-Woodwings to, since none of the orchestral Woodwinds is not meant to be able to play as soloist. So I do not see any reason why I should imagine that a Synchron Woodwind would not have likewse both options as the Cube and Spitfire and many others to.

    (What I use depends on what sound most convincing, since I currently have nearly everything loaded in my templates I do have no necessity to exclude any option.)
  • LAJL
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    We will see, if you are right. I am not so sure that Solo instruments will be included in this first WW-package. I could imagine that VSL starts with a „Sections only“ Package and the Solists will be in a different package. Again, we will see ;)
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    @LAJ said:

    We will see, if you are right. I am not so sure that Solo instruments will be included in this first WW-package. I could imagine that VSL starts with a „Sections only“ Package and the Solists will be in a different package. Again, we will see ;)

    No since Woodwinds are not likewise a Section-instruments like Strngs. Their regular tasks in an orchestra are often if not mostly soloparts. That was the reason, why they did not sold any "Dimension-Woodwinds". I am pretty sure that no one will sell Woodwinds without small ensemble and solo-samples. As Woodwind I of the Symphonic cube already included both solo and with 3 Players, this will be the same with Synchron-Woodwinds.
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    ""bowrrow the concept of Spitfire" ????? are you kidding ? The VSL has had "Flutes a3", "Oboes a3", "Clarinets a3", "Bassons a3" already as Part of the Cude, when the Spitfireguys went to school and even did'nt knew at all what a "Spitfire" might ever have to do with Sampling and Orchestras, If ever anyone has "borrowed" anything than it was Spitfire imitating what VSL has already sold for years." - fahl5

    That is so true Steffen, and you made a very good point!   And the solos are totally compatible with ensembles as you know.  
  • LAJL
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    Yes, William. Of course they are compatible. But let me ask you a question as you seem to disagree with the Spitfire 2-1 concept. What exactly do you want to see in the Woodwinds Package then? To keep it easy let us take only the Flutes as an example. How would you manage 3 Flutes to be recorded the best way and with the greatest benefit for everybody?
  • LAJL
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    At least there are only 3 ways ... 3 individual Players 2 Flutes as an Ensemble/Duett and the third Solo (like Spitfire) 3 Players playing as an Ensemble BTW Everybody else is asked too, as this - from my point of view - is a very interesting question.
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    I do find that interesting.   The Spitfire concept of a2 as an ensemble is weird, since with woodwinds  two solo instruments will sound exactly the same as an "ensemble" of 2  when doubled.  You will notice a difference though with 3 flutes ensemble.  Ideally,  if money is no problem, you would have three solo flutes sampled.  VSL pointed out a while ago that the Dimension approach with woodwinds is not really needed as it is not audible in comparison to simply using solos doubled.  I've found that the two separate VSL flutes sound perfect together.   But if you want three separable flutes and/or ensemble the ideal would be to just sample all three separately.  Of course you could easily have a template with four C flutes using the current VSL flutes, by using the transposition/pitch shift technique.  I did that on a concert band piece and it worked well. 
  • PbestP
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    Oh, if another brand of Synchron Piano are to be released, I wouldn't hesitate to invest.

    I'm excited just by imagining it.

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