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    @William said:

    "fahl5, everybody knows it wasn't in strict form, but who cares? It's good music, people enjoy it, let it be at that. " - Guy Bacos

    That is exactly right.  Why on earth should it be in strict form? Also the differences are an expression of the composer.  Merely making a copy of an old style is less original.

    Anyway it sounds excellent  

    No one pretended anyone should write "in a strict form" or "making a copy of an old style"; no one disputed in any way that the overall appearance sounds charming at all.

    Are you really that superficial Guy and william, to ignore so badly what the real point of my comment was and argue instead like a musical don quichote against a selfinvented windmill of conservative formalism which you just arbitrarily insinuate my very concrete comment? If so I can not help you.

    Just read carefully and consider seriously why I proposed to "think about" the form might help to improve the composition as it seem to me that the music itself wants to be. it is not about formalism it is about to unfold the richest and most convincing musical thinking. And yes there are moments which i realy like (the theme is well invented, some diggressions are harmonicly very nice (for instance near 2'30) other seem to me compared to that less exciting as I mentioned the harmonicly motionless passage from 1'28-2'11 or the tendency to a kind of thematic monotony.

    If MMKA wants it to be like this, than he wants it like this, it is his music no matter with that att all. I just honestly gave my spontaneous impression about what in my ears appears less convincing and what in my ears appears well done in this composition, since as far as I understood this is what threads like this are all about.

    (allow me not to answer any discussion about what I do in this thred, If you feel need for, create your own thread for and I will answer what ever anyone likes to discuss, But in this thread here, imho one should better be concentrated on MMKA interesting Stringquartet.)


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    @fahl5 said:

    Are you really that superficial Guy and william

    fahl5, I thought you would know by now, especially with our previous discussions, we are non thinking superficial musicians, I think you are wasting your time with zombies like us. 


  • Unwanted or unsolicited comments can be felt threatening or intrusive, even if they are meant as constructive contributions. One should be able to appreciate a submission as it is, without lecturing (unless the sender asks for constructive comments in order to improve his/her performance), especially when it is really good. Keep in mind that for a number of members this is the only way to get at an (limited) audience.

    Jos


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    @Jos Wylin said:

    Unwanted or unsollicitated comments can be felt threatening or intrusive, even if they are meant as constructive contributions. One should be able to appreciate a submission as it is, without lecturing (unless the sender asks for constructive comments in order to improve his/her performance), especially when it is really good.

    Jos

    Are you kidding ?????? "Unwanted or unsollicitated comments" this is a forum for public discussions. Did you think anyone is posting here who do not "want" a "comment" on what he is posting???

    No one is forced to post here anything if he is not ready to discuss it.

    There is nothing "threatening or intrusive" in answering honestly what I like and what I suppose could be worth to think about.


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    @fahl5 said:

    Are you really that superficial Guy and william

    fahl5, I thought you would know by now, especially with our previous discussions, we are non thinking superficial musicians, I think you are wasting your time with zombies like us. 

    Yes as your completly offtopic answer indicates it, you obviously really put it exactly the way it is.😛.

    and now please come back to the much delightfuller Stringquartet....


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    @fahl5 said:

    Are you really that superficial Guy and william
    fahl5, I thought you would know by now, especially with our previous discussions, we are non thinking superficial musicians, I think you are wasting your time with zombies like us. Yes you really put it exactly the way it is.. Wow.

  • It upsets me that people get so angry with each other about our music. We have different opinions, OK. We can sometimes benefit from considering other peoples views, especially when they are from a person who shares our basic values.

    In this case we all share a love for quality (classical) music and although some focus more on one genre or era than another, we can usually find several eras or sub-genre areas in common. 

    This community is too small to be able to loose any knowledgable members. So while I may have strong opinions about the music discussed, I hope I never fall prey to the temptation of conflating my musical opinions into negative opinions about the people on this forum.

    If we all thought in exactly the same way, and had identical opinions, what would be the point of even having a forum to discuss music or any other topic? Therefor we should join together in a brotherly comradery and enjoy the different perspectives we each bring to a discussion.


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    @Paul McGraw said:

    It upsets me that people get so angry with each other about our music. We have different opinions, OK. We can sometimes benefit from considering other peoples views, especially when they are from a person who shares our basic values.

    In this case we all share a love for quality (classical) music and although some focus more on one genre or era than another, we can usually find several eras or sub-genre areas in common. 

    This community is too small to be able to loose any knowledgable members. So while I may have strong opinions about the music discussed, I hope I never fall prey to the temptation of conflating my musical opinions into negative opinions about the people on this forum.

    If we all thought in exactly the same way, and had identical opinions, what would be the point of even having a forum to discuss music or any other topic? Therefor we should join together in a botherly comradery and enjoy the different perspectives we each bring to a discussion.

    👍😃

    Thank you Paul!


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