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I bought this morning Woodwinds I Standard Library, I compared with SE, which I bought several years ago, and the articulations have the same number of layers, they are the same as the SE.
It is also reported in the manual
have of course more articulations in Woodwinds 1 standard than SE
maurizio
copied directly to Vienna Instrument Pro
Oboe
SE (left) - Woodwinds I SL (right)
01S OBfr staccato - 01D OBfr staccato
Wave Count: 102 - Wave Count: 102
Velocity Layers: 3 - Velocity Layers: 3
2 Alternations - 2 Alternations
02S OBfr sustain - 03D OBfr sustain_Vib
Wave Count: 51 - Wave Count: 51
Velocity Layers: 3 - Velocity Layers: 3
03S OBfr sforzato - 06D OBfr sfz
Wave Count: 18 - Wave Count: 18
Velocity Layers: 1 - Velocity Layers: 1
04S OBfr legato - 21D OBfr legato
Wave Count: 1522 - Wave Count: 1522
Velocity Layers: 2 - Velocity Layers: 2
05S OBfr legato-sus - 22D OBfr legato-sus
Wave Count: 1556 - Wave Count: 1556
Velocity Layers: 2 - Velocity Layers: 2
01B OBfr portato - 02D OBfr portato
Wave Count: 102 - Wave Count: 102
Velocity Layers: 3 - Velocity Layers: 3
2 Alternation - 2 Alternations
02B OBfr fp - 05D OBfr fp
Wave Count: 18 - Wave Count: 18
Velocity Layers: 1 - Velocity Layers: 1
03B OBfr trill_1 - 11D OBfr trill_1
Wave Count: 32 - Wave Count: 32
Velocity Layers: 2 - Velocity Layers: 2
04B OBfr trill_2 - 12D OBfr trill_2
Wave Count: 32Wave Count: 32
Velocity Layers: 2Velocity Layers: 2
05B OBfr perf-rep legato - 23D OBfr perf-rep legato
Wave Count: 170 - Wave Count: 170
Velocity Layers: 2 - Velocity Layers: 2
06B OBfr perf-rep staccato - 25D OBfr perf-rep staccato
Wave Count: 306 - Wave Count: 306
Velocity Layers: 2 - Velocity Layers: 2
maurizio
Maurizio, are you sure you're loading the right patches?
The Oboe patches in the Woodwinds 1 library aren't called "OBfr", but "OB2". The OBfr naming convention is from the Special Editions. My Oboe staccato from the Woodwinds 1 Standard library is called OB2_staccato and has 4 velocity layers and 4 repetitions.
I don't have OB2 but OBfr in a named folder Download Instruments patches
time ago i bought Flute Ensemble Full and it is in a named folder Woodwinds patches
On my hard disk Installed File Size is 11.95 GB (including Flute Ensemble Full) vs 41.6 GB shown on the site.
Perhaps having previously purchased Flute Ensemble Full now makes me install the remaining libraries as purchased separately?
This would not be correct!
maurizio
Well, that's weird. Something's definitely wrong here. My Woodwinds 1 Standard folder indeed is 41,6 GB. Drop a mail to VSL support, I'm sure they can sort this out!
On my hard disk Installed File Size is 11.95 GB (including Flute Ensemble Full) vs 41.6 GB shown on the site.
Perhaps having previously purchased Flute Ensemble Full now makes me install the remaining libraries as purchased separately?
This would not be correct!
maurizio
Hi Maurizio,
I think the problem is that, having bought a single instrument library before, when you "upgrade to the collection standard library", what you actually get are merely single instrument licenses for all the other instruments in the collection (you can check this on your vienna key). As I wrote the single instrument standard licenses are for most instruments identical to the SE version, whereas the collection license, that you get when you purchase the collection from scratch, contains significantly more content (as detailed above). I had exactly the same problem and ended up upgrading to full to get all the unreduced versions (full single instruments licenses are identical to the full collection content).
I thnk it is a pity that VSL does not explain all these subtleties properly on their site ...
Cheers
Kai
Hi Maurizio,
I think the problem is that, having bought a single instrument library before, when you "upgrade to the collection standard library", what you actually get are merely single instrument licenses for all the other instruments in the collection (you can check this on your vienna key). As I wrote the single instrument standard licenses are for most instruments identical to the SE version, whereas the collection license, that you get when you purchase the collection from scratch, contains significantly more content (as detailed above). I had exactly the same problem and ended up upgrading to full to get all the unreduced versions (full single instruments licenses are identical to the full collection content).
I thnk it is a pity that VSL does not explain all these subtleties properly on their site ...
Cheers
Kai
Hi Kai,
I also made it, maybe it's just like that. I wrote to the support and I await the answer.
If it is really so I am disappointed and irritated for not having found any clear indication anywhere.
I had read your post and I was sure that from the single instrument to the Complete Standard Library I would have had the instruments with the version not reduced.
I would have definitely opted for a different purchase
Thank you
maurizio
Hi everybody,
As you probably know, our Single Instruments have evolved over time, and we started when download sizes still mattered (A LOT!!), which is why our first Single Instruments (the Woodwinds and Brass instruments that existed back then) were designed much like the Special Edition instruments.
As the situation is often quite different for different users, the best idea is to contact us at support@vsl.co.at with any specific questions!
Best,
Paul
