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Well never mind, it has to been said that you are one helpfull guy and it is good news to hear about things having changed in Logic. Of course we have to consider that I left logic (not even cared about testing Logic Pro X) and missed all of those developements. So good news for logic fans and of course there is no perfect DAW!
Maybe I'll give it a try with logic one day again under these circumstances. Simply because I am an Mac Pro and OS X Fan! :)
Keep up the good work!
Scorefrog, you are one of the nicer people I have encountered on forums. All the best and if I can ever help you, let me know.
The only 2 things I dislike about Logic are:
- the inability to display multiple controller lanes at the same time below the piano roll.
- the inability to unload tracks from memory (DP does this with one button click, Cubase with a couple)
Otherwise I love Logic.
- the inability to display multiple controller lanes at the same time below the piano roll.
There are workarounds for that when working with the current version.
You could either use the step editor in a seperate window below the piano roll
or show multiple controllers in the Workspace with activated automation view
and the Track automation changed to Region.
Maybe one day we will see multiple automation lanes...who knows.
- the inability to unload tracks from memory
if you show the on/off buttons on the track header you can unload a track
but it wont unload the instrument and potential sample sets (Kontakt 5) from RAM
It's a nice chanllenge to do this ;)
If you want to send me your song, I can try to do it for you.
Send me a PM
Cyril
There seem to be a few tutorials on how to make a template in Cubase with VEP, but very little with Logic (?). That's probably not a good enough reason to get Cubase instead as I already have Logic Pro X. Having said that, I don't know much about Logic even if I've had it for some years. I have actually more experience with FL Studio than Logic, but Fl Studio on Mac is not ready yet. All I've done in Logic is recording some ideas, and the little I tried with the piano roll and automation was so different from FL Studio that I lost some motivation.I wonder if any of these DAWs are best when it comes to working with VEP?I will have the daw on the master Mac, and VEP is on the slave PC.Is it all about preferences, or is Cubase better as most ppl seem to use that with VEP? I've read that in Logic there's a limit on number of MIDI ports, so each instance in VEP can only have 16 channels. If I've understand it correctly.
I'm VSL Certified and have clients from all parts, especially Hollywood, and the four most popular DAWs for composer are Cubase, Logic, Digital Performer and Pro Tools (yes, Pro Tools).
They all have great things about them and I'm always looking over the fence to see what I'm missing. That being said, don't ignore Digital Performer. It has some features that you'll wonder how you ever lived without. I believe DP is the most effcieient with VE PRO on macOS, (I have no numbers to back that up), but DP is better optimized for macOS than Cubase, and DP allows for 48 MIDI ports which means you get 768 MIDI channels per VEP instance, (whereas Logic only allows 1 MIDI port per instance, which I see you already know). Jay may a workaround for that that he uses, (other than the Event Input).
No DAW is perfect, although there are many workarounds too improve each. Out of the box, I'm upset that Apple rarely updates their AU spec and limits Logic to 1 MIDI port, (clearly documented on Apple's Developer website. But Logic has the best Score Editor IMO, although DP's and Cubase's are pretty good. I also like the overall interface. I enjoy working in Logic.
Digital Performer is sometimes seen as an old school DAW, with separate MIDI and Instrument channels. However, is a blessing in disguise, IMO. DP is very deep. But, oh boy, I wish they'd fix that tiny 1988 font problem. I'm not even that old and I strain to read some of DP's text! Wish more developers would support MAS, like VSL (bless you VSL), and AudioEase do, when it's more than just a wrapper issue. DP is deep, deep, deep..
Cubase is a wonderful DAW, especially with it's well integrated VST3 implantation. Thank goodness for Cusbasis on iOS. I find DP and Cubase so close in a lot of ways, but am a 25 year DP user, (v1.7) and there's no prying me away now.
My point is, don't sleep on Digital Performer. It's powerful. It might be a bit intimidating to new users, but you can try the free 30 day downloadable demo and see for yourself.
Not starting a DAW war here. Trust me. I love the BIG THREE and use them all (especially when I want to shake things up). Just wanted to suggest you take a look at DP.
Best wishes,
Steve Steele
VSL Certified Vienna Ensemble Pro Template Builder
I mostly agree with Steve's post. However, unless things have drastically changed with newer versions of DP, while it is a great DAW ( I would LOVE to have the Chunks feature in Logic) it is or was less efficient with CPU than Logic.
If you use Peter Schwartz's ArtZ ID (or SkiSwitcher if 16 MIDI channels ins enough, as it is for me) then the lack of MIDI ports in Logic is a non-issue.
All the DAWS have pros and cons but I have the definitive answer as to which one is best to use with VE Pro......wait for it.... it's cvming.., almost there....THE ONE YOU KNOW BEST!
Actually...š MOTU rebuilt DPās Audio engine for v9.5. At first there were some major issues for most users. Now itās great. MOTU likes to say itās the fastest audio engine out there. The fact is that the last engine was pretty slow and us long time DP users didnāt know it! Now DP is up to speed with most good DAWs. When VSL released the MAS version of VE Pro I thought it was just a nice gesture for us lonely DP users. But I think it had something to do with the new engine. Regardless, Iām loving DP 9.5 and VE Pro 6. Match made in heaven. I still love Logic and Cubase though. All three are great. I would be happy using any of the three (I own all three). But you said it. The Chunks feature is just too good to give up! Take care Jay! Steve SteeleI mostly agree with Steve's post. However, unless things have drastically changed with newer versions of DP, while it is a great DAW ( I would LOVE to have the Chunks feature in Logic) it is or was less efficient with CPU than Logic.
