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    Would probably be a cool feature. I guess the top of the line in this software area is Embertones solo strings. They based their library on this concept, recording everything without vibrato. They can be really expressive, no doubt, but there's sometimes the LFO based vibrato still annoys me, and feels a bit fake. Also controlling and programing it can take a little focus away from the performance for me, though they did a really good job, also with the TouchOSC app.

    Now for most project I've actually ended setting up dimension strings with a crossfade between the non-vibrato and vibrato legato patches. I really think this creates an intimate sound. And it's nice being able to crossfade to a real played vibrato. And beside that still have all sorts of articulations available. I found this concept working best with DS which for what I know is the only full string library that has actual sampled non-vibrato legato transitions. Most libraries use their vibrato/regular legato transitions and then crossfade immediately to their recorded non-vibrato sustained sample. But this thing I hear very clearly and therefor it doesn't work for me. 

    Unfortunately VSL didn't sample (edit: performance legato) non-vibrato for the other string libraries, so the concept can't be applied in the same way. Let me know if you want to know more about how I've set up DS. 

    Best
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
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    @saxmand said:

    [...] Unfortunately VSL didn't sample non-vibrato for the other string libraries, so the concept can't be applied in the same way. [...]

    That must be some kind of misunderstanding: WIth the only exception of Appassionata Strings (which are meant to be played "molto espressivo" anyway), all "sizes" of VSL strings (i.e. Solo, Chamber, Orchestra) offer non-vibrato samples, too.

    -> https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Strings/Strings_Complete#!Sample_Content

    Kind regards,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • S
    S

    ah dang, sorry that wasn't clear. I ment in the context of performance legato, so that there's no "performance legato non-vibrato". I'll just add that to remove that confusion.

    Should say that there are with the latest two solo instruments Solo Violin 2 and Solo Cello 2.
  • J
    J
    Of course if you have VI PRO you can experiment with the time stretch feature and that would work for any instrument. To be honest I never tried it myself because I've always been satisfied with the vibrato "baked into" the sample.
  • D
    D

    I would love to get my hands on the Humanize vibrato settings that Guy Bacos used in his oboe and clarinet demos for VSL.  Simply gorgeous.  I wish VSL would look into providing us with a pallete of humanize vibrato files in the next VIPro release.  
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    @ddunn said:

    I would love to get my hands on the Humanize vibrato settings that Guy Bacos used in his oboe and clarinet demos for VSL.  Simply gorgeous.  I wish VSL would look into providing us with a pallete of humanize vibrato files in the next VIPro release.  

     

    Hi ddunn,

    Humanize vibrato presets are available inside VI-Pro since 4 or 5 years.
    You can find them in the Humanize Presetfolder "10 FX".
    There are labeled "LFO effect", presets for fast, medium and progressive vibtratos are available.

    best
    Herb
  • D
    D

    Thanks for the reply, Herb.  Yes, I should have mentioned that I have looked at and tried those.  Guy's use of them had a much wider vibrato than the ones in the FX folder.  It's something that I plan on getting into at some point.  I guess Guy created those himself.  It seems to be a subject of contension on the forums, but I have no problem with it.  
  • H
    H

    If you mean with wide vibrato the pitch amount of the amplitude, you can set this up with the "Tun" controller.
    Value 127 offers the maximun amount, which is IMO way over the top. Settings between 30 to 70 should work well. (of course the "Hmz" controler should be also set to 127, otherwise you scale the amplitude with this slider.

    best
    Herb
  • D
    D

    Thanks.  Could be that I overlooked that!  I'll try at first opportunity. Thank you.

    Darryl
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    Thank you, Herb, for your post!
    All the messages I read on the internet (where else) were: VSL don't use LFO vibrato, and in the manual of VIPro I didn't find it either (at least I searched on the words lfo, vibrato, fx and humanize and I didn't find it). And surprise, surprise, there it is, just under my fingertips.😊 As I wrote earlier in a post, not for every note of course, but if I need some extra vibrato in a specific situation.

    Perhaps useful for others:
    I found out also: every kind of fx vibrato in the list has 12 variations. You can choose to use them one behind the other, but for a certain situation, it is also possible to use just the first one and adapt them to your needs. You can save them also of course (see the image).

    Ok, and while I was writing, other posts came. Perhaps mine could help someone 😕 

    and... VSL even better than I knew already...