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  • How To Make Best Use of MIR Pro with Two VEP Computers

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    I'm using Vienna Ensemble Pro (VEP) 5, MIR Pro, and Vienna orchestral instruments with Digital Performer (DP) 9.  I just completed setting up one VEP server on an external slave computer and one server on the master computer.  I'm using VEP on my slave computer to house my VSL orchestral instruments.  I'm using VEP on my master computer to house the remainder of my virtual instruments (VIs).  

    I have a single license of MIR Pro.  At the moment MIR Pro is housed on the slave computer and is being used within VEP, which is helpful with all of the orchestral instruments housed on the slave computer.  The only problem is that the remainder of the VIs cannot take advantage of MIR Pro because they are housed on the master computer.

    So, this is tempting me to consider removing my MIR Pro license from the slave computer and placing the license on the master computer.  This way I could use MIR Pro as a plug-in in DP on all the VIs including the Vienna orchestral instruments.  Before I make these changes, however, I'm just wondering if there are any advantages to keeping things the way they are.

    Any suggestions on how to use MIR Pro most effectively if one is attempting to make best use of a single MIR Pro license with two computers such as detailed above?  Please advise.  Thank you.
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    The only advantage to keeping MIR on your slave is that its not using CPU from your main DAW, which probably is running other mix plugins. If you main system is powerful enough, I would for sure move MIR to your main DAW as it opens up much more mix possibilities, but again this really depends on if your main system is powerful enough. 
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    I noticed as soon as I moved MIR over to my master computer, my activity monitor showed quite a hit for my DAW on the master and the monitor on the slave went down.  What I'm going to need to experiment with is whether the slave or master can better manage MIR and whether I really need to run all of my VIs through MIR or just the VSL instruments which I currently have housed on the slave.

    I only have four cores on each machine with 16 GB on the slave and 32 GB on the master.  This setup is more of a stepping stone until I can swing a 12 core Mac Pro.  But, it is a step up from the single machine with 16 GB that I had until just recently.  I'm still getting used to Vienna Ensemble Pro and MIR PRO.  I'm already wondering how I lived without them, however, they also do make things more complex.

    Thanks for you reply!
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    I've been asking myself the same question from the opposite direction. Since getting an iMac for my DAW, I've offloaded all VSL instruments to VEP on my old Mac Pro (cf. signature for specs) and I'm running MIR on the main computer. This has the advantage of routing anything I need through MIR easily. I can also change the MIR venue and adjust global dry/wet for each specific Cubase project without touching my VEP template.

    However, while I was hoping that the iMac, supposedly faster than the entry-level Mac Pro in raw CPU, would handle MIR and mixing without hiccups, the reality is different. As soon as I add a few synths in a project (yes, I sometimes have to do hybrid stuff...) I find that the iMac is suffering terribly under the load. And they're not even going through MIR (I do cheat).

    I'm still not sure who the culprit is (Omnisphere, Zebra, Reaktor...) but even on very small arrangements (say 8 VSL tracks and 8 synth tracks) I need to get the buffer size up to 2048 in order to be able to mix properly. And I'm using a Universal Audio DSP card for almost all EQ & compression!

    So I was thinking of maybe splitting the MIR load between machines, if it's possible. Has anyone done that? And has anyone had trouble with a top-spec machine struggling so much?

    Thanks.
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    Before I began working wih VEP and MIR, what I kept hearing about was the extraordinary capabiites of these software - as soon as one got them configured correctly.  I kept hearing about this configuration as the big challenge that one needed to surmount before really appreciating the features and benefits of these software.

    Now that I'm in the midst of the configuration process, I'm getting a pretty good taste of what I was hearing about. Of course, one of the challenges of this process is that the details are going to be different for each of us depending on our own individual DAW, equipment, and workflow.  

    Nevertheless, what I think would be of help to all of us going through the configutation process is some video support - either by VSL or others on YouTube.  These videos could walk through various scenarios wih a variety of equipment packages and help us through the process.  The features and benefits videos out there are all well and good.  But, some good video tutorials on successfully navigating the configuration process would also be welcome and get us more quickly to the enjoyment of the features and benefits of these software.

    In the meantime, I find myself spending a lot of time with the Activity Monitors open on my Macs as I test different configurations.  It's one of the few tools I've found that help me as I test out configurations.  Other than that I would certainly welcome further discussions from others who have been down this path hearing their suggestions.