Hi, 

Wow, you read the manual!
We think it´s nice to have more than just 16 instruments in one VE PRO instance, for better overview, less screen clutter, and of course to use with MIR PRO (all instruments in one room).
In any case, that´s now possible. I always use the channel collapse function to get more channels on the screen. 

Best, 
Paul

Hi Paul,

I'm looking for clarification on this as the manual isn't that clear to me.  With the MAS version, can we now use Pre-gen mode or do we still have to set DP to run plug-ins in real-time?  The only place Pre-gen is mentioned is under "Working with Audio Input/Event Input plug-ins."

Thanks,

Chris

Hello Chris,

For smooth operation of VE Pro, running at least virtual instruments in real-time is still a prerequisite, no matter if you use the MAS, VST or AU version of the plug-in!

We will also update the manual in this respect - thanks for reporting!

Best, Marnix

Is there a MAS version of Vienna Ensemble for Windows?  Or do the DP users on Windows still need to use the VST option?

Thanks

Hi AndrewW, 

Yes, there is a MAS version for Windows. 

Best, 
Paul

I made a "how to connect VEPro to DP" video. It shows DP utilizing 48 MIDI ports. I also briefly touch on a couple related DP tips like MIDI Device Groups (which I plan on discussing in detail in a later video).

I also suggest that for your main templates at least, save your instances as vi frames and the project's VEPro Server's metaframe in your DP project folder. If anything ever goes wrong with instances not loading all you have to do is select all of your vi frames in the Finder and then drag and drop them into the VEPro server window. Then in DP add VEPro server interfaces and connect. You'll see all of you instances in the server interface window ready to be connected to. Then save DP.

Enjoy!

hi !  All !   I have problem  with a new mas  plug-in for weight dp.  

before you press the button (disable instrument) vienna court discharged from the project, and then when you press the button to enable it includes.

 So I built templates necessary instruments and included only those instances that are needed.

Now when you press the button to turn off court is not unloaded

Please see the video as it was in the old version vienna without mas plugin

Please see the video as it was in the old version vienna without mas plugin

vienna ensemble version   5.3.13407

@thenightwatch said:

I made a "how to connect VEPro to DP" video. It shows DP utilizing 48 MIDI ports. I also briefly touch on a couple related DP tips like MIDI Device Groups (which I plan on discussing in detail in a later video).

Great tutorial!

Thanx 😉

@Paul said:

Hello again, 

Another update: We have decided to pull VE PRO from MyDownloads and roll back to the previous version until we have fixed the AU/MAS confusion (working on it with high pressure, and it is looking good). 

If you´d like to roll back, please use the VE PRO Uninstaller, this way the MAS plug-in will be completely removed.
I will let you know as soon as the update is available!

If you´d like to accelerate beta-testing, please let me know at support@vsl.co.at, I´ll provide you with the next release candidate as soon as it is ready.

Thanks for your understanding and patience, 

Paul

Paul,

I've had a number of issues with the latest update. Can you clarify which version we should be rolling back to? The software version I just downloaded is v.5.4.13682. Is this the previous version? It still gives the option to install MAS. I installed this version with the MAS optioin unchecked, but then couldn't get VE Pro to successfully communicate with DP at all.

@Ben Stanton said:

Can you clarify which version we should be rolling back to?

Is there any answer on this? I'm highly regretting updating VEP before all the bugs have been worked out. I can't go 10 minutes without a crash, whereas before I didn't have any.

Hello Ben,

The version before 5.4.13682 is 5.4.13407, available in the Software Archive.

If you´d like to share the problems you are having and maybe want to send us crash reports and short instructions on how to reproduce the crashes you are getting, please send them to: support@vsl.co.at

Best,
Paul

Does it help lower CPU in DP to lower the 48x16 available midi channels per instantiation? or doesnt it matter? 

@labman said:

Does it help lower CPU in DP to lower the 48x16 available midi channels per instantiation? or doesnt it matter?

Same with me.

Constant crashes DP 8 with 5.4.13682

rig was stable under old VEP.

Seems to be as the VEP template gets larger, crashes started occuring.

Sent support an email.

Love you guys - but this one sucked boiled eggs. Lost a lot of time dealing with it.

@edhamilton said:

Same with me. Constant crashes DP 8 with 5.4.13682 rig was stable under old VEP. Seems to be as the VEP template gets larger, crashes started occuring. Sent support an email. Love you guys - but this one sucked boiled eggs. Lost a lot of time dealing with it.

Hi, 

We´re really having a hard time to reproduce these crashes here. 

@Ed: You think this is automation-related, can you please send us such a song (best as a zip file) to support@vsl.co.at?

That´s the fastest way to move forward, the next release candidate is already in the pipeline. 

Best,
Paul

I have had a smooth transition to the MAS version with no major issues at my end. I even combined frames from 2 computers and merged them to a new one.

Now one thing I noticed it seems like loading of samples works differently than the AU version. I have my VE-PRO plug-ins in V-RACKs organize by groups and sections that are disabled by default. I did this so my template would load fast (as it doesn't load anything) then I would simply enable the sections I need for a given cue say strings and woodwinds and leave everything else off.

Now after I've converted to the MAS version eventhough all my VE-PRO plug-ins (in V-RACKS) are disabled it goes and load everything as I open my template. Is this new normal? Am I missing something? Anybody else noticed that?

Hello everybody,

We just uploaded a new version of Vienna Ensemble PRO, 5.4.13715.

Hope you like the improvements, especially for DP users:

•Added: Transparent migration from VST/AU to MAS (see VE PRO 5 manual: Important Notes for Digital Performer Users)
•Added: Default MAS plug-in to Realtime (instead of Pregen) mode
•Fixed: MAS plug-in not properly going offline when disabling a V-Rack Chunk in Digital Performer
•Fixed: Incorrect latency compensation and time info in MAS plug-in
•Fixed: Potential superfluous parameter change messages being sent to master host from plug-ins
•Fixed: 'AutoGroupSelectedChannels' option (changes in preferences were not considered in VE/MIR PRO since the parameter was overwritten from a hidden control in MIR PRO preferences)
•Fixed: Instances not loading minimized (Preferences setting) if loading from master host
•Fixed OSX: Certain AU plug-ins (u-he and others) not able to automate properly over the full parameter range
•Fixed OSX: Space bar transport not working when connected to Digital Performer
•Fixed OSX: Shortened delay on space bar transport control (Start/Stop) when connected to Digital Performer, Pro Tools or Studio One

NOTE: DP projects saved with the previous version of the MAS plug-in need to be loaded with AU/VST plug-ins disabled in DP.

Best,
Paul

Wonderful! Thanks so much, works like it used to but only better!