Secondary Mic Mir Pro

[Gzu]

Hello VSL friends! I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I've searched in the forum and haven't found nothing related to my question/doubt My question is: can I use the secondary microphone, in the " center" position and the main mic in "conductor" position? Is there any inconvenience,in using this setup? Or should I use the main mic in center and the secondary a little farther behind?? Is there any "best" setup?? Best regards G.C

[Paul]

Hi, 

The "best setup" is always the one that sounds good to you 😊
It depends a lot on the arranegement and style of music, and on the venue you choose to perform your music in. 

Dietz gave some good advice regarding the secondary mic setup in the MIR PRO Manual (pages 19/20).

Does that help?

Best, 
Paul

[Dietz]

Like Paul wrote. :-) In addition, you might look at the Venue Presets I created for MIR Pro stand-alone (i.e. used within VE Pro). I used the Secondary Mic on many occasions.

As a rule of thumb, it is advisable _not_ to use the same microphone positions for Main and Secondary when aiming for more spatial "enveloping". Just moving the Microphone Icons to different locations on the Venue Map won't do, as they will still trigger the selection of the same original impulse responses, just decoded differently. 

A typical setup will in most MIR Venues would employ one of the available positions close to the stage as a Main Mic, and the next position behind it for the Secondary Mic.

HTH,

[Gzu]

@Dietz said:

Like Paul wrote. :-)In addition, you might look at the Venue Presets I created for MIR Pro stand-alone (i.e. used within VE Pro). I used the Secondary Mic on many occasions. As a rule of thumb, it is advisable _not_ to use the same microphone positions for Main and Secondary when aiming for more spatial "enveloping". Just moving the Microphone Icons to different locations on the Venue Map won't do, as they will still trigger the selection of the same original impulse responses, just decoded differently. A typical setup will in most MIR Venues would employ one of the available positions close to the stage as a Main Mic, and the next position behind it for the Secondary Mic. HTH,

Hi Dietz and Paul!! Thank you so much for the info!! For example: let's say I have the main mic ( Blumlein pair ) in center position and the secondary in conductor place, and the violins section is positioned left on stage a little behind the center mic Being blumlein pair, two crossed figure 8 mics, each time violins plays,they will also sound on right channel because its behind the blumlein pair. My main doubt, is, if this setup is often used ( instruments behind the main mic/center position ), or if the orchestra should always stay in front of the blumlein pair. Best regards! G.C

[Dietz]

Due to the figure-8 capsules used for the classical Blumlein array, the signal will always be out-of-phase as soon as the source position crosses the imaginary center axis of a capsule, and it will seemingly move to the opposite side as soon as it is situated behind the 180° base line.

If you really want to position signals behind your Main Mic without running into this effect, please use another Main Mic setup instead, e.g. the M/S-array with an omni-capsule for the M/Center part.

... and as I wrote above: It's always a good idea to use one of the microphone positions farther in the back of the hall for the Secondary Mic. Otherwise the results will get somewhat unpredictable.

HTH,

[Dietz]

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