Oh before I forget: Please integrate Celemony's ARA Technology![Y]
Of some reason there are not many DAW Developers who have integrated this.
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Ok, it is time for wishes again.
I as a dimension string user would like to have second violins from other libraries.
So, please offer the Violins from Appassionata and Orchestral Strings as Single-Download-Sections. I would buy both. I don't need the rest of these Packages.
And I am still waiting for Library Updates especially for the Recorders. There are a few distored sounds on the Keyboard.
just an idea: ...
... I know this correcting - work eats time for so many Samples. So ... Maybe we could take actions if you allow us to change Samples by offering an Editor ... I really think this is another good idea to give the user a chance to get rid of these sounds until the Library Update arrives. This Editor should allow us to 1.) change Samples and 2.) to correct wrong tones, semitones on single keys and 3.) sometimes the Sound on a Key has a too powerful attack ... It sounds like BAM! when you play, so pleas allow us to Cut the attack on Single keys.
I would prefer to drop the dongle all together and go to an Internet streaming sytem where you could stream your samples from the Vienna Cloud.
Sorry it is not a very good idea, we are streaming form SSD, streaming from the Clouds is too slow.
What I will see as an acceptable solution is a license check every one, two or three month.
streaming from the Clouds is too slow.
Cyril i must admit, I'm in complete awe. Again you've stunned the audience with your amazing ability to point out the obvious[:'(] Yes, Even the super servers that NASA uses couldn't handle the load that the heavy sample users would demand. If you read my post a little further I also said, " this is all science fiction right now because I don't think the streaming technology is up to par to handle something this ambitious yet."
However I'm glad you brought it up because recently I've been having some reservations about this Idea and I can't really make my mind up. Even if the technology was available what would happen if VSL goes belly up. How would I access what I paid for? If I wanted to sell my VSL stuff how would that work out. What if your streaming VSL from a cloud but you're also using another company's samples that streams from a hard drive. Would there be conflicts?
@LAJ said:
... I know this correcting - work eats time for so many Samples. So ... Maybe we could take actions if you allow us to change Samples by offering an Editor ... I really think this is another good idea to give the user a chance to get rid of these sounds until the Library Update arrives. This Editor should allow us to 1.) change Samples and 2.) to correct wrong tones, semitones on single keys and 3.) sometimes the Sound on a Key has a too powerful attack ... It sounds like BAM! when you play, so pleas allow us to Cut the attack on Single keys.
Maybe I'm wrong on this but can't you edit the samples with VI Pro like time stretching, for example. Or is that VE Pro?
Where are you hearing "wrong tones?" Which libraries?
Hi Jasen,
no, afaik time stretching is not made for only one Key on the Keyboard, but for all. If not, please tell me how you can use this only for one Key on the Keyboard.
here are a few examples ...
(all examples refer to Repitition 1 in the Vienna Inst. PRO Player).
1. Percussive Violin: For this check Dimension Violins / Player 1 - articulation SustainVi and Key A2 (and/or a half tone below) on the Keyboard. There's a too loud Start-Klick which does not fit in the context cause it is too loud. With an Editor I would cut it (but only on G#2 and A2)
2. Sounds which do not fit in the context: For this you can check Dimension Trumpets Preset 11PTr P1 Compact pro / articulation SustainVi and play C#2 and D2 and then E2 and F2 ... you will hear the differences in loudness. Here I would like to exchange the 2 soft tones with an Editor.
3. Sounds which are not in tune: this seems to be a Brass problem.
... test Flugelhorn and/or solo trumpet Bb ... and play:
a) Flugelhorn: articulation SustainVi ... play F3 on the Keyboard and you will hear that the tone does not start with an F, but a halftone below (sounds like Legato). Same with FortePiano C#3 and D3.
b) Trumpet Bb: Same issue like a) ... articulsations FortePiano or SFFZ ... play tones E3 and F3
4.) Or as mentioned Recorders Alto ... G#2 and A2 ... but that was already a topic in another tread and was confirmed by other users.
I hope that helps to understand. But the focus on this thread is to find good solutions and 2 have good ideas. So let's not dicuss too much like in the "insurance thread".
BR Lars
@LAJ said:
Hi Jasen,
no, afaik time stretching is not made for only one Key on the Keyboard, but for all. If not, please tell me how you can use this only for one Key on the Keyboard.
here are a few examples ...
(all examples refer to Repitition 1 in the Vienna Inst. PRO Player).
1. Percussive Violin: For this check Dimension Violins / Player 1 - articulation SustainVi and Key A2 (and/or a half tone below) on the Keyboard. There's a too loud Start-Klick which does not fit in the context cause it is too loud. With an Editor I would cut it (but only on G#2 and A2)
2. Sounds which do not fit in the context: For this you can check Dimension Trumpets Preset 11PTr P1 Compact pro / articulation SustainVi and play C#2 and D2 and then E2 and F2 ... you will hear the differences in loudness. Here I would like to exchange the 2 soft tones with an Editor.
3. Sounds which are not in tune: this seems to be a Brass problem.
... test Flugelhorn and/or solo trumpet Bb ... and play:
a) Flugelhorn: articulation SustainVi ... play F3 on the Keyboard and you will hear that the tone does not start with an F, but a halftone below (sounds like Legato). Same with FortePiano C#3 and D3.
b) Trumpet Bb: Same issue like a) ... articulsations FortePiano or SFFZ ... play tones E3 and F3
4.) Or as mentioned Recorders Alto ... G#2 and A2 ... but that was already a topic in another tread and was confirmed by other users.
I hope that helps to understand. But the focus on this thread is to find good solutions and 2 have good ideas. So let's not dicuss too much like in the "insurance thread".
BR Lars
Hi Lars,
You should do a bug report at support@vsl.co.at
Horror-Effects ...
i would like to have them for dimension strings and dimension wood. You can already create them by pitching each Player/Sound in another "direction". But what I still miss is the "UUUUuuuuuuuii - Horroreffect" - this cruel pitched sound (sorry, but I don't know the word for these effects [:$] ). This one can't be created by Manipulation in the VI Pro Player. (If someone did this with success, please answer and explain the way ... [Y] )
Of course just a few Samples of that, not a whole Package and no layers. I think one length that can be stretched shorter would he enough.
I have new wishes:
Boys Choir, Boys Solos and ...
PLEASE MAKE THE DOWNLOADMANAGER MANAGING THE WHOLE PROCESS!
At the moment it is great that the Downloadmanager is loading all the Samples, but it would be much better if you could give a link to the manager to even install everything by itself. Otherwise you have to sit and wait for each Instrument.
BR Lars
Another wish from my side ...
Please allow us to put the Secondary Mic OFF in MIR X -Vienna Instruments .
Thanks.
Thanks for your suggestion!
While this can be achieved easily in MIR Pro itself (... just switch off the Secondary Microphone), I can't see this happen anytime soon for MIRx. I know - never say never, but it would mean to re-export each and every IR-pair for each and every instrument, with an acoustic result which wasn't the one I was aiming for when creating MIRx' settings. It would make the handling of MIRx more complicated, and the size of each MIRx Venue would double.
I'd say, this will stay a MIR Pro-exclusive feature. 😊 Thanks for your understanding!
Kind regards,
A snapshot from the ESC's official Production Handbook gives you some nice background information (s. attachment).
... and in case you're able to read German, there's a recent press release from VSL with further details:
-> VSL at the 60th Eurovision Song Contest in Vienna (German only)
Kind regards,
my biggest wish for vienna instrument pro: a better browser!
this little tiny tinyest accordion menues are a nightmare!
want to load staccatos of eight players in dimension strings?
go to:
patches
strings
flip menue - search dimension strings
flip menue - search violins
flip menue - search player one
flip menue - search regular
flip menue - search short notes
search staccato
add staccato to the right slot
flip menue - search player two
flip menue - search regular
flip menue - search short notes
search staccato
add staccato to the right slot
flip menue - search player three
flip menue - search regular
flip menue - search short notes
search staccato
add staccato to the right slot
flip menue - search player four
flip menue - search regular
flip menue - search short notes
search staccato
add staccato to the right slot
flip menue - search player five
flip menue - search regular
flip menue - search short notes
search staccato
add staccato to the right slot
flip menue - search player six
flip menue - search regular
flip menue - search short notes
search staccato
add staccato to the right slot
flip menue - search player seven
flip menue - search regular
flip menue - search short notes
search staccato
add staccato to the right slot
flip menue - search player eight
flip menue - search regular
flip menue - search short notes
search staccato
add staccato to the right slot
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ok, now you have staccatos... really still want some other articulation too? start from top...
so it really needs lists we can choose articulations from and add as a multiple selection from a bigger menue in one go. in a readable size! pleeeeeaaaase!
my biggest wish for vienna instrument pro: a better browser!
this little tiny tinyest accordion menues are a nightmare!
want to load staccatos of eight players in dimension strings?
I recomment to look more closely into the search option of the patch browser. Referring to your example, you can type: "VI-P RE staccato", you will get filtered exclusively the staccato patches for all Dimension Violins for the regular string mappings.
best
Herb