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  4. VEP5 + Digital Performer + Event Input plugin = Stuck and missing notes
  • I
    I
    I erased all reverbs from my system, but the problem remains. One work around that work 100% of time is turning off delay compensation on DP. This of course create other problems, but it might help you guys to find the culprit. Please let me know if you have questions, etc. and I'll be happy to help you and try ideas on my system as well.
  • S
    S
    I've had the same problem here on DP 8.0.4, did everything the VE PRO manual said and still drops notes like crazy. Sucks because I'm really liking DP and this problem is not apparent in my other DAWs Edit:I'm on windows 8 btw, don't know if this is because its new to the PC Platform?
  • M
    M

    There is a bug with the processLevel flags in the VST hosting of DP8. This can cause streaming issues, especially when bouncing. MOTU knows about it and will soon release an update.

    Hopefully this will take care of your issues.
  • L
    L

    Thanks Martin for clearing this up. Let's hope Motu resolves this quickly. 
  • I
    I
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    @MS said:

    There is a bug with the processLevel flags in the VST hosting of DP8. This can cause streaming issues, especially when bouncing. MOTU knows about it and will soon release an update.

    Hopefully this will take care of your issues.

    I'm on Mac and have the same problem. I'm only using AU instruments (no VST). Actually, this problem has been on DP since ver 7 when it couldn't run VST.
  • I
    I
    Hey guys, Any progress on this? Thanks
  • S
    S
    Thank You! Hopefully this gets resolved soon.
  • S
    S

    I first experienced this issue when I purchased altiverb. Removed Altiverb from the busses, rebooted and all was well again. Altiverb are working on a fix but its not just altiverb that causes this issue - certain other reverbs do as well, spaces does not.... 

    Magic dave from MOTU did email me and say that the fix was going to be included in dp8.04..... but this doesn't seem to have happened as the issue is still there for me at least. There should be another DP update soon, lets hope its fixed, in the mean time, as long as I'm carefull about what plugins I use in the same project as event input all is well. Not ideal.
  • M
    M

    Just adding my voice to the conversation and confirming that we have the same issue. 

    After extensive testing we were able to confirm that the stuck midi notes were indeed an issue brought on my certain plugins being anywhere in the signal path with a VEPro instance. Altiverb was one of those. MOTU's proverb and the Waves verbs seem to operate correctly. We tried with both VST and AU getting the same results.

    Hoping for a fix on either end to make it work. [:D]

    If VSL would like, we have a session that almost 100% of  the time will exhibit stuck notes within a certain 8 bar stretch that we could send.
  • L
    L
    We showed same problem as Stuart with Lexicon PCM bundle. Remove it and all was well. Of course, our engineer said no to the removal of lex and altiverb! :) So we had to axe all event plugins from our templates.
  • J
    J

    Just bumping this topic as it seems a lot of users are experiencing similar issues.  I recently experienced this going to DP8.05.  It hasn't really ever happened to me since this.. I can recall maybe a few times over the last few years that it did.. I blamed it on a possible currupt session as it only did it on a few files over the years..  

    But just want to throw ou there that this topic hasn't been solved and I would love anyone's findings on how they perhaps solved it.

    I do have altiverb so I'll try and see if that is the culprit.  Delay compensation is a must for me.. so the disable trick is not a valid option..

    Cheers!
  • E
    E
    This is still happening. At 1st if I took Altiverb out of the project it would fix the problem, now it does it all of the time. Makes it impossible to write
  • E
    E
    I have found a solution that works for me and hopefully others. 1. Delete all of the Event Inputs for a single VEP5 instance. 2. Change one of the midi tracks that is routed through any of those Event inputs to directly route through the VEP instance 3. Play notes and you will no longer hear the droped notes 4. Undo the deletion and change the midi track back to route through the Event input. 5. Should be working fine now. Note: you have to do this each time you open the project, but takes a minute.
  • W
    W

    This issue has nothing to do with plugins, 3rd party reverb, etc.  because it is happening on a standalone VE5 instance with nothng but some MIR FX on it - no other plugins.  I have had it happen on sequences played by an external MOTU MIDI Express XT 8 port interface.   I am having stuck notes on string parts when I stop a sequence.  This stuck note problem never happened to me before with VE so it makes me think it is a new bug that has crept into the later upgrades?  I notice that it does not happen all the time - basically if you have several whole notes playing when you stop the sequence, they do not stick, but do when it is a more complex line you stop in the middle of.  Especially I had the impression that it was when the sequence was stopped just as notes were switching or transitioning rather than just sustaining.

  • I
    I
    So, no hope for DP users then? It's been way to long….
  • E
    E
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    @imzadim said:

    or DP users then? It's been way to long….
    Did you try my workaround? I have been using it for a few weeks now and although a pain in the butt, it seems to work flawlessly
  • Steve SteeleS
    Steve SteeleS

    I can replicate this issue easily if you'd like me to make a screen video. Usually it's Kontakt libraries with high voice counts or multiple mics (like Cinebrass or CS2). Happens A LOT. When I stop using my sample based WW libs and use WIVI, the issue almost goes away. Possibly a bandwidth, timing, sync or latency issue?

    Would loved this fixed more than ANYTHING. I rely on DP everyday. Would be glad to help if needed. Do Logic users have this problem? I've tried using the VST version of some of the related plugins instead of AU, and maybe it helped?

    Regards, Steve Steele https://www.stevesteele.com
  • L
    L
    We would like to see this work with DP8 too. Sort of a nightmare with event inputs.
  • I
    I
    Yes, it's a bit of a nightmare here...

    I'm slowly moving to Cubase for this reason (although Cubase is having some other big issues as well)
  • M
    M

    Has there been any progress on this? I know VSL's stance has been that it's a MOTU issue, but it is still going on. Things seem to work fine as long as we only use certain plugins that come in contact with the VEPro returns. IE we can get away with sending a VEPro return to a ProVerb or Waves RVerb plugin, but instantly get stuck notes if we make it an Altiverb or Lexicon Plugin.

    This has been going on ever since DP 8 and has been a real drag as we are limited in what we can mix with.

    Any updates would be appreciated. Thanks!