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Hello,
Can these presets be used with MIR Pro24? Only 24 instruments available I understand that, but I'm in the middle of desiding should I get VE Pro also or just use MIR as a plugin in Cubase. Presets would help me to get started and learn more about MIR. If I understand correct presets can't be used without VE Pro?
As a sidenote I will use mainly 3rd party VI:s inside MIR. So will all the presets go to waist with 3rd party VI:s?
-Rami
Hi Rami,
for better understanding, please allow for quoting the ReadMe-file that comes with the Venue Presets:
Venue Presets are meant to be used as starting points for your own arrangements and mixes in Vienna MIR Pro. Think of them as empty stages which are set up readily for recording an orchestra or ensemble of your choice. Ideally they will also inspire you to use MIR Pro in ways you didn't think of previously.
Each Venue Preset is built around one Main Microphone position in one of MIR Pro's Venues (… please refer to MIR Pro's manual for a detailed discussion of the technical terms used in this ReadMe). They are roughly divided in “Typical Setups” and setups that were created with more specific sounds in mind, or for certain instruments.
In general, all Presets contain
dedicated Output Formats that have been created manually for the task in many cases
fine-tuned Main Microphone positions
optimized Room EQ settings, mostly to get rid of room-inherent resonances or similar peculiarities
suggested RoomTone Levels.
Much care has been taken for achieving perfect stereo-balance and all-embracing stereo-width. Some Venue Presets are set up as 5.1 surround configuration from the very beginning, though – they are all marked clearly.
Several Venue Presets make use of MIR Pro's unique MIRacle Algorithmic Reverb Add-on, partly in an “hybrid” approach, partly as synthetic enhancement of MIR's natural spatial enveloping. The settings used in these Presets were hand-built in each single case. - HINT: If you see a “MIR Wet Bus” in VE Pro's mixer, take it as an advice to use MIR Pro's wet signal routing instead of the conventional “In-line”-routing! In these cases, MIRacle is meant to process MIR's wet signals only. You will have to take care for that with each added instance.
You will also find some additional MIR Pro EQs in some more demanding setups, or for sound design reasons.
Speaking or sound design: Some Presets rely on shortened overall reverb times (which can be achieved easily on behalf of MIR Pro's Reverberation Time feature). This option multiplies the possible uses of one and the same Venue – which is what those Presets are meant to demonstrate.
A few Presets make use of MIR Pro's option to present a Venue in another acoustic perspective than the usual 0° main axis. These files are marked clearly. HINT: Keep in mind that you can rotate a Venue visually in 90° steps on behalf of Ctrl+Alt-clicking anywhere in the Venue-Map! This makes the handling of those setups much easier.
Usually, a Venue Preset will contain just one or two “empty” Vienna Instruments, to give you an idea where to start with your own setups. There are several examples built around specific instruments, though, namely Vienna Imperial Piano or Vienna Konzerthaus Organ. While you will have to own the licenses for these instruments to make full use of the provided settings, you can of course use these Venue Presets for other signal sources, too.
For lack of other equally obvious means of adding written notes to a Venue, some MIR Icons' title-bars serve as a memo aimed at the prospective user – just make sure that the blue “Titles” -option is switched on below MIR's Venue Maps to see them.
Right now, the available Venue Presets can only be used with MIR Pro hosted by VE Pro, not the plug-in version - but it is easy to export all relevant Venue settings (so-called MIR Engine settings, opposed to instrument-specific settings) by means of the command File > Vienna MIR Pro > Save.
In addition to the Venue Presets, there are some templates available which include full orchestral setups, namely "Herb's Teldex Presets" -> http://www.vsl.co.at/en/68/428/1957/1622.htm. These templates indeed rely solely on Vienna Instruments, for obvious reasons. 😊
Kind regards,
@herb said:
I a nutshell, all Venue Presets will work with MIR PRO 24.
best
Herb
Thanks Herb. So I can use the presets as a starting point and learn my way up. Great!
