Just a correction--Sweetwater DOES allow you to download Solo Strings. I know because I just did a week ago :oP I have a pretty modest laptop setup I use to test libraries out, and Solo Strings works perfectly, very light on resources, on a Windows 7 64-bit computer with 8 gigs of RAM and a much less powerful processor. I can do a full quartet with several types of legato per instrument and reverb and some positioners easily. Your system is more than sufficient!
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Do they have round robin Casiuire? Some demos sound as if the library suffers from the "machine gun effect"
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Depends on the articulation. Go into User Area - Instrument Collections - Strings and scroll down. You should be able to download the manual there. Go to page 16 and it gives you a breakdown of all the dynamic layers and round robins. Looks like most shorts have 4 round robins. Also the legatos have same-note legato samples, so if you're playing a note which then repeats, you won't get that same first attack again. The Standard Library has something like three different types of legato, each of which has a different first attack, so you can essentially make your own 3-way round robin out of that as well. Personally I control my legatos by velocity, which is the LASS way of doing things, so if I press the note a bit harder I get a new attack for legato articulations.
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By the way, I just asked per email and they said that Solo Strings is available as a download.
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That's good to know, I stand corrected. I have bought everything from them and never did they let me download anything. I always got sent a DVD. I will be sure the next one I buy from them they allow me to download. Although it only takes 1 day delivery to my home so not much of a problem really for me :).
If possible, you will also benefit from VI PRO 2. This can make an enormous difference in your overal authentic sound. The humanize function really helps to disguise even the same repetitions, due to making the tuning and attack of each note slightly different.
Your resources on your machine should be just fine for running a string quartet with many samples.
Maestro2be
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The download option may be newer since VSL only recently started allowing downloads of the DVD collections. On a side note, I'm curious about VI Pro because people seem to suggest it a lot but I just don't see anything that it can do that would change my workflow. I don't even have a need for humanizing since I play every part in separately so there's a lot of real imperfection already (sometimes too much lol). I've seen all the VI Pro videos and I'm still really wondering what I'm missing.
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I mean i really doubt the humanizing even sounds realistic enough. Although im not sure, I might even buy pro but just for the humanizing? Do you work with the mouse or keyboard Casiquire? I think if we edit the velocities etc we can achieve pretty much the same thing.
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I do it all on the keyboard, player by player. Nothing is recorded with the mouse. After recording a few takes until I'm satisfied with one, I'll sometimes tweak some dynamics, velocity, or timing here and there, but I've found that there's just no way to get the same realism from typing the notes in as from playing the notes and dynamics. I don't mean to hijack this thread but I really do want to hear from some people who own VI Pro about what the big benefit is. Rolf_Music--how do you record your samples? Or are you still working on getting started?
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I actually just use the samples with my sequencer (cubase 6 or FL studio) and do the entire work with my mouse. I dont have any vienna products since I currently use other libraries but im planning on starting with the Solo Strings this week. Im just waiting reply from the support team because I want to know if we as users have any guarantee that we are still able to use the software should under any circumstances their company go out of business. I just dont want to end up with a product if it can stop functioning anytime should I truly depend on it. Forexample Native Instruments states in their terms that they give out permanent unlock codes if they go bankrupt or anything.
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Ya but how would I get replacement licenses or what happens if I reformat my PC. Things like that pass through my head. It is really a nightmare.
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That might just be a risk you have to take. Like owning a car--if your manufacturer goes under, they don't have to keep making parts for it or servicing it. Take the best care of it you can, and get insurance. Same applies to samples--if it's for your business, it might be worth getting insurance like others have that I've seen in music forums. I'd be the wrong person to discuss that with, though. I'm far from business-savvy. Or tech-savvy. Or car-savvy, for that matter.
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@Rolf_Music said:
Ya but how would I get replacement licenses or what happens if I reformat my PC. Things like that pass through my head. It is really a nightmare.I think you're over thinking it. As long as you have the software and the licences on your dongle, you can transfer everything to a new computer as many times as you like. If VSL or Steinberg were to go bust, your system would still work. However, whilst it's true that there is no guarantee that everything would work on an upgraded system, this is true for all software, including Native Instruments.
DG
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In an email they stated that replacement in case of damage are 20 euros per license and that if the company goes out of business they offer permanent unlock codes like NI. If only all of this was stated somewhere.
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Excuse me for butting in on a thread which is not especially relevant to my question, which comes as a result of reading one of the contributions, where I read " If you have fast SSD hard drives, you can raise the load buffers and have VSL use more hard drive reads." in a paragraph written by cgernaey, and signed off Maestro2be.
I have been using using ssd drives on my Mac Pro for a while, along with MIR Pro and the new Dimensioon Strings, so as I currently have only 16GB of RAM, I'm interested inways of reducing demands on the Memory. Unfortunately however, I have no idea how to raise the load buffers. I don 't even know what that means, though I've seeing mention of it before.
Would someone, perhaps even the author of this contribution, be kind enough to explain very simply how I should do this, and perhaps what the load buffers should be set at (if that's the right way to put it).
Many thanks
Cefnfaes
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The best explanation for it is found on page 8 of the manual. I believe it is only available for VI PRO 2 and not the free players. So look in your user area for the VI PRO 2 manual, and look at page 8. It's perfectly outlined right there. This is another of the many advantages of VI PRO 2. Humanization is only 1, of many. I believe VSL let's everyone read the manual, even if you don't own it so it would be a good read for those who want to know what it can do that your free player isn't doing.
I for one love the humanize feature and it's adjustable parameters (you can adjust what percentage you want of the script). Additionally, they have tons of presets that actually completely change the tuning and humanization. I no longer have to do anything with that to get what I want.
Time Stretching the samples, to make basically any sample become exactly the length I need it to play. A 2 second crescendo is now 3 seconds with a few clicks of a button.
Auto-Divisi. I can easily stack multiple samples and sections and have them split for me automatically. Is a nice feature.
Total number of cells is increased - I can layer a lot more samples into one icon because the total number of allowable cells per instance is increased. I can now put 8 instruments into one instance and pan them etc and or layer them perfectly in a snap. Instead of the maximum of 2 in the free player I think it is.
APP Sequencer - In long repetitive sections this works amazing for writing a long heartbeat styled base line or pizzicato section as well as any other type of sequence you want to create.
I am beginning to re-write the manual here so you would be better to go read the manual. The first few pages of the manual are specifically outlined with what's new etc. Page 8 will explain your preload buffer size.
**edit - another one I could never live without is cell disable feature and the presets made for VI PRO 2. This means I can load every sample of the entire instrument library ready to go, only all cells disabled (so no memory usage). All I do is double click the one I need and it loads that sample for me. No spending hours searching for samples etc. They are all right in front of my face.**
Hope that helps and no I do not get any favor points, free instruments or money if you buy VI PRO 2 because of this :). I have never even met anyone from VSL let alone work for them :).
Maestro2be
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By the way cgernaey, what makes up the consumation of the RAM in MIR Pro? I tested it with the included VSL patches from the Kontakt 5 factory library and It merely reached 2.5 RAM. I honestly dont know why they say it consumed alot of memory and CPU. The only thing I can think of is if I load full vienna instruments which take up space but MIR alone...no idea to be honest.