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  • Then it really sounds like this is an issue unrelated to VE Pro. Perhaps another change in your setup is really causing the issue?


  • Nothing has changed at all here in the past year. VEP crashes and Pro Tools keeps running. To me that sounds related to VEP. Projects with smaller VEP templates and projects without VEP run without crashing. If East West crapped out and VEP was still running then maybe VEP would look less suspect. Are you able to translate the info from the crash log I posted?

  • As I mentioned earlier, it is Play that crashes. If a plugin crashes, it takes the host down with it. East west might be able to help you, so please send the crash report to their support.


  • Yes thanks, I posted the same information on their forums yesterday and also gave them a link to this thread.

  • Here is a zip of the Pro Tools session (all midi) and the VEP metaframe. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2128276/Sharing/ProToolsSessionAndVEPMetaframe.zip

  • Tried to setup a new template differently (without using Play's multi-outputs) and got this error message:

    Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: Vienna Ensemble Pro x64.exe Application Version: 5.1.0.11849 Application Timestamp: 50a853d8 Fault Module Name: Vienna Ensemble Pro x64.exe Fault Module Version: 5.1.0.11849 Fault Module Timestamp: 50a853d8 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 00000000004d0b39 OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 35df Additional Information 2: 35dfe1efe86af831f42d67ed176193e4 Additional Information 3: c3ba Additional Information 4: c3bab3e1664e31469533585def44275b


  •  Still not solved.  Any help is appreciated.  Haven't heard anything from East West either... [:|]


  • This will not load on my PC but all my Play-based m-frames and v-frames do just fine, so I am guessing it is corrupted.


  •  I'm 100% sure it's not corrupt.   If I DON'T load VEP server, the pro tools session opens up (without vep of course).  If I DO open VEP server I can load all my samples into it.  The problem is when I load the server, then launch the PT session- it crashes while trying to "connect".

    More proof that the template is not corrupt:  If I try to rebuild it from scratch, I get the same crash right when I've loaded 40-50 patches.

    Jay, have you spoken to anyone else at East West about it?  I have gone the "official" support route and received the auto-generated reply, but that was Tuesday and still nobody has contacted me.  Case number:  29868


  • I'll ask, but if I cannot open it they will probably not be able to open it, and anyway, I am not sure any of them use VE Pro.


  • Thanks Jay, I just want them to check out the error message and see if they can figure out what is happening.


  • Hi,

    We have provided the East West Team with many NFR licenses for VE PRO for that reason. 

    Best,

    Paul


    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  •  Great, now if I can just get them to contact me...[:(]


  • Hopefully I will get a response.


  • Still no help yet from East West- coming up on 3 weeks since I requested support.  I did reinstall my entire system twice- once with only the newest versions of Play and VEP and had exact same symptoms- hard system crashes and can't open my main template. 

    Second reinstall I used old versions of Play 3.0.1 and VEP 5.0.1037 and I'm able to open my main template and play with it.  The problems happen once MIDI is recorded.  Eventually during stop/playback VEP crashes (Pro Tools stays open) and I get the same error message:

    Problem signature:

      Problem Event Name:                        BEX64

      Application Name:                             Vienna Ensemble Pro x64.exe

      Application Version:                           5.0.0.10370

      Application Timestamp:                     4f73aaaf

      Fault Module Name:                          play_VST_x64.dll

      Fault Module Version:                        3.0.15.0

      Fault Module Timestamp:                  4e14c416

      Exception Offset:                                00000000001e2c3f

      Exception Code:                                  c000000d

      Exception Data:                                   0000000000000000

      OS Version:                                          6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3

      Locale ID:                                             1033

      Additional Information 1:                  abb2

      Additional Information 2:                  abb23192a1acf8bab854607d477229e8

      Additional Information 3:                  a9a5

      Additional Information 4:                  a9a558b451722e07c3b866480359f1f3

    Files that help describe the problem:

      C:\Users\Dave Escobar\AppData\Local\Temp\WER99B0.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml

      C:\Users\Dave Escobar\AppData\Local\Temp\WERD950.tmp.appcompat.txt

      C:\Users\Dave Escobar\AppData\Local\Temp\WERD9DD.tmp.mdmp


  • hey, I was having the same problem but using Cubase. I uninstalled MSE and went offline and the problem stopped but after adding Hollywood Brass to my Metaframe the other day the crashes are back with the same BEX error. I was in contact with VSL support ,they responded within hours but said it's a PLAY problem and offered to help EW solve it ,I eventually got in contact with someone at EW and they said they gave Karel at VSL's contact info to the developers and to figure it out,but last time I asked VSL they hadn;t heard from EW. It's a real drag. Maybe they're just not gonna deal with it and fix it with PLAY4 whenever that comes out.

  • I will try to rattle some cages again :) As iI say, with Logic Pro it is no problem here.


  • Yep the VSL people have been very helpful- at least 4 different people have contacted me trying to help.  I can't believe East West just completely ignores support requests.  Going on 3 weeks since the support request was filed and nobody at East West has even contacted me to attempt to help.  I keep bumping my thread in their support forum and even found more people with the same exact problem.  I don't have MSE installed (I reinstalled Windows) and staying offline does not avoid a crash here.

    Also Jay, if you read my most recent posts, you'll see that merely opening the template is not enough.  You need to record and playback at least 4-6 tracks of midi playing along with audio.  Since I reinstalled my entire system, the crash always happens right after stopping playback.  If I never record midi, it won't crash.  As soon as MIDI is there with my template loaded, it will eventually crash within minutes.


  • Dave, give me a little credit, Do you think I am not recording and playing MIDI parts, just opening the template and saying,"My isn't that pretty looking? "

    Check out the piece called "Diabolique" on my webite, done with this template: http://www.jayasher.com/listen/


  •  Jay I certainly didn't mean to be insulting, just being extra specific since after reinstall, I loaded my template and I played with it for 30 minutes jumping around patches and thought "IT WORKS!" It wasn't until a few hours later when I tried to lay down some tracks and realized I was still in trouble.  Helen from East West has replied to the thread in EW support so extra thanks for "rattling their cages"  =)