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  4. When will we finally see (NEW) VSL libraries ?
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    OK, having had a strong business background from a previous part of my life:

    There are many excellent reasons why VSL cannot reply to these kinds of questions, nor - IMO at least - should they.  VSL has chosen the business model of silence, and that is that.

    For one, if they were to announce, "We are currently working on the mostest brilliantest fabuwonderous strings library the sample world has ever seen...

    All I will say is remember not too long ago when one certain company announced in advance a particular library, a certain "compass directional" company immediately announced far in advance their own competing library of the same type?  What was the likely end goal: to impact sales of that first company's library by encouraging people to wait to see if the "compass directional" company's forthcoming product would be better.  That second announcement by the "compass directional" company did impact the publicity of the first company as it got many people talking about the second company's forthcoming plans, to the detriment of the first company.

    If the competition does not know what VSL is working on (which they would if VSL publicized it), those other companies, won't be able to try to circumvent things, etc.

    Howver much one may wish for an announcement, it likely will not be forthcomng.  IMO, one of the secondary ways VSL has been able to stay "on top" as it were, is that the competition has very little idea of what VSL is actually doing.
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    Here is a quesion,

    say tomorrow I buy the solo violin and the chambers strings, to complete the strings sections,

    And then a month later they release a new library. if they would anounch such an upgrade path, I think many people would buy current library knowing they will not just loose thier investment, therefore, there would be some sort of credit for owning legacy products towards the new library .
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    @mazeka said:

    Here is a quesion,

    say tomorrow I buy the solo violin and the chambers strings, to complete the strings sections,

    And then a month later they release a new library. if they would anounch such an upgrade path, I think many people would buy current library knowing they will not just loose thier investment, therefore, there would be some sort of credit for owning legacy products towards the new library .

     

    Historically there always has been some credit towards new libraries, if there is an overlap of samples. You could only lose any perceived investment if the older product stopped working, which it won't. Therefore the only thing that you are facing is having to pay for something better than you already have. A bit like buying a new car, even though the old one works fine, and coincidentally works just as well as it did when you first bought it.

    However, if you need something today then you should get it. If you want to wait "just in case" you don't really need it in the first place. [;)]

    DG
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    Ya but remember the old car can be traded in :)
  • muziksculpM
    muziksculpM

    Hello,

    Well ... As you can see, so far, there is zero feedback from VSL to my question.  

    Complete silence from VSL .  Not a breath of fresh news or a hint of what's happening in the area of New Orch. Libraries from the wonderful people in Vienna !  City of music, and culture.  

    Oh.. Well,   

    All The Best to VSL's Development Team, whatever you are working on,  I'm sure it's something very BIG, and Exciting  !!!!

    Cheers,

    Muziksculp 
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    I'm glad there's complete silence. There are a couple of people who will complain when a company doesn't announce plans far in advance. There are ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE who complain when a company needs to push back a due date. Let's look at it this way. Are you missing something huge and important in your workflow that needs to be fixed right now or else? If so, does VSL offer it? If so, then just buy that. If not, buy it from somewhere else. If you're NOT missing anything huge and important in your workflow that needs to be fixed right now or else, then don't buy anything. Asking if they're working on new products or when we'll receive new products from them doesn't even give you enough information to make a purchasing decision considering you don't even know what the product is. Clearly people just feel the need for a company to change their strategy on upcoming product announcements just to provide some instant gratification. Instant gratification is addictive--if they tell us yes, they're working on something, do you really think nobody's going to start asking what they're working on? Then if they answer that question, we'll want to know more, and when it will be ready, and how many GB it is, etc. Nope, silence is best. That's how we get a perfect end product, that's how the masses don't get disappointed by delays or buggy releases, that's how competitors don't get the chance to engage in high-pressure sales tactics.
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    @mazeka said:

    Ya but remember the old car can be traded in 😊

     

    And you can sell your older product, if you want to...

    DG
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     If there is an August discount for the student it will be hard to resist for the Orchestral Strings.  [:D]  I have Appassionata and Chamber,  I miss an ensemble size between them...

    But everyone is talking and requesting new orchestral strings...  I find it a little bit risky to buy the orchestral strings in a near futur.  [:D]
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    @DG said:

    And you can sell your older product, if you want to...

    DG

    Really? This is different from the industry norm of not allowing samples to be resold or transferred...which is honestly a standard I have never understood. If you buy a book, you can give it to your friend. If you buy a computer you can sell it on eBay. If you buy a sample library, you should be able to resell.
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    Cyril BlancC

    Maybe VSL is very busy working on the intergration of Logic pro X and VSL [;)]

    Logic X is normally due for the 6 of september as the French tutorial will be available at la FNAC (big French shop) on the 6th,

    see :

    http://livre.fnac.com/a4061968/Jean-Louis-Hennequin-Apprendre-Logic-Pro-X-techniques-fondamentales 

    and

    http://livre.fnac.com/a4061971/Jean-Louis-Hennequin-Maitrisez-Logic-Pro-X-techniques-de-pro

    Sorry the link is in French

    On the 6th there is also an Apple special event [;)]
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    @DG said:

    And you can sell your older product, if you want to...

    DG

    Really? This is different from the industry norm of not allowing samples to be resold or transferred...which is honestly a standard I have never understood. If you buy a book, you can give it to your friend. If you buy a computer you can sell it on eBay. If you buy a sample library, you should be able to resell. 

     Yes, really. Contact VSL and they will talk you through it.

    DG
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    I'm hoping to see just two things from VSL in the near future:

    1 A "Dimension Strings" package with Solo/First Chair plus modular divisi sections that can be layered. While I can do this already to some extent with solo, chamber and orchestral plus VI Pro 2, three chamber strings sized ensembles plus solo would be a good competitor to something like LASS. Again, by transposition and mixing articulations I could probably do this already with solo and chamber strings, but "ease and convenience" would be good, particularly for VSL newcomers.

    2 An "Orchestral Sketch Pad" package, a kind of "Special Edition with baked in MIR" entry level product for quick set up and again ease of use, particularly for newcomers and to compete with the likes of Albion and Orchestral Essentials.

    OK, I'm being selfish - when I compare VSL with LASS, Albion, OE, CS and 8dio Adagio I still come back to my complete VSL set up and think "why would I bother when this is all so much more flexible, functional, stable and complete". The other thing is that all of these other packages seem to have limitations since they're built to a price. BUT, sometimes it would be nice to take a few more shortcuts and go "straight to that total sound", and it might attract a few more less experienced folk into the VSL approach where they can grow with it as they gain more experience without hitting the others' limitations and then having to look elsewhere.

    Anway, just my Sunday afternoon rambling. For the time being, I'll just keep putting in the work and getting the great results [H]
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     NO STUDENT DISCOUNT THIS MONTH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
  • muziksculpM
    muziksculpM

    Wow ... Finally !  You answered my question [:D]

    It's Great to see VSL Dimension Strings Announced. and Dim-Violins already available for purchase. 

    Thank You, and Congratulations to VSL for moving forward and offering their Next Generation Strings Libraries .  

    Looking forward to buying the early special offer, and eager to hear the rest of the Strings family when they are available next year. 

    Cheers,

    Muziksculp