Cyril - that's an offcial warning: Please don't start your private crusade against VSL again. Don't spread unfounded assumptions and wrong numbers. Thanks.

@Dietz said:

Cyril - that's an offcial warning: Please don't start your private crusade against VSL again. Don't spread unfounded assumptions and wrong numbers. Thanks.

Hi Dietz

Calm down !  you are very sensitive, you need holidays [;)]

I am not starting a crusade against VSL !

You made your choice in your marketting strategies, it is YOUR choise. Nowdays Apple show that selling apps and music at a very low price are selling by millions !

Adobe has the same marketting policy as VSL !![:'(] 

For the figure, I have said it is my guess ! it's a guess, beeing angry with those figures looks like I may be right !

You can always contradict my figures and saying you are pround to annouce that you have sold 10 000 licences of MIR PRO

I will be very please to hear that you have sold 10 or a 100 thousands licences of MIR PRO

Best

Cyril

P.S. I will say again I LOVE MIR PRO, the only reproach it that it is a too expensive, you cannot have a license for 3 computers(it is very CPU greedy), that additionnals rooms are also too expensive

 Cyril, Marketing is very much more complicated than you make out. If I was selling a high end software product I would basically have 2 options:

1. Sell it to professionals and charge a professional price
2. Sell many more copies at a lower price.

On the surface it would seem that the 2nd option would be the preferred choice. However, this takes no account of two things:

1. The more copies you sell. the more support you have to be prepared to give
2. Once you move out of the professional market, the amount of support per customer that has to be given increases enormously, due to the fact that most of them haven't a clue what they're doing!

Now I'm sure that you can see there is almost a conflict of interest there. This sort of reasoning can be seen from many companies, such as Redmatica, who only produces software for Mac. Basic logic would tell you that the increased number of sales would easily outstrip the extra cost of doing the Windows port, but the amount of extra support obviously outweighs the potential profit to be made from these extra sales.

Regarding Apple's policy and music, I really don't think you want to go there. [:@]

DG

Let's not lose track of why we're all able to talk on this forum. We are Vienna's guests, and I for one am thankful for the innovative products Vienna has made available to us, and for the forum that connects all of us into a community.

The same great minds that designed these great products are in the best position to guide Vienna in its policies, and it is their prerogative to make those calls.

I appreciate the chance to express earlier in this post what my needs are as a user, and I hope that Vienna will give those needs some consideration, but there is no point in criticizing them or making them out to be the "bad guys." That's simply not right.

Let's stay positive and use what Vienna has provided us to make some great music.

Steve

Thanks, Steve. We are not fishing for compliments here, but friendly words are always welcome - as much as constructive criticism. :-)

@DG said:

 Cyril, Marketing is very much more complicated than you make out. 

The more copies you sell. the more support you have to be prepared to give

1. Once you move out of the professional market, the amount of support per customer that has to be given increases enormously, due to the fact that most of them haven't a clue what they're doing!

DG

Hi DG,

Nowdays companies give less and less support, as we, users,  gave support to each others on internet !

I had to help users uisng the "connect to " in Ichat (you connect on the other Mac and you show what to do)

I made a Logic/MIR Pro template that I have send to a few people !

Why did not VSL provide a Logic, Cubase, Protools ... template for MIR PRO ??? this will save a lot of traffic on the Forums !!

I have a question very OT for you :

My father is using Win XP and Internet explorer, I have send him a link to a zip file that contains some of my music. He says that when he click on the link nothing happends !

How can he retreive this .zip file ?

Many thanks

Best

Cyril 

@Cyril said:

 

I have a question very OT for you :

My father is using Win XP and Internet explorer, I have send him a link to a zip file that contains some of my music. He says that when he click on the link nothing happends !

How can he retreive this .zip file ?  

Right click, save target as...

DG

@Cyril said:

 

I have a question very OT for you :

My father is using Win XP and Internet explorer, I have send him a link to a zip file that contains some of my music. He says that when he click on the link nothing happends !

How can he retreive this .zip file ?  

Right click, save target as...

DG

Many thanks

@strytten said:

I have MIR and VEEns 5 as well as several room packs for MIR.  I need to use MIR on a second machine with VEEns and the room packs I have bought. [...] so that I can offload work from one machine and make use of the LAN capabilities of VEEns?

Why not restrict the use of your main DAW to Midi, MIR Pro and (other) mixing plug-ins, and have 2 slaves play the instruments.

In a thread about the use of multiple MIR Pro instances on one machine, for the purpose of having more than one (now more than two) mic positions, I mistakenly assumed that the 16 stereo channels of input and output were hardwired into VE Pro. That's not the case, it's configurable in the preferences. So it is in fact (theoretically) possible to send for example 100 instruments or more per slave VE over to the DAW and insert each of them using VE Audio Plug-ins into the DAW's VE Pro hosting MIR Pro. How that will work out in practice I don't know. Maybe you try it out.

Good luck!

Thank you Bas10, this is a great idea, and I'll give it a spin!