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  • Appassionata Strings I : legato "lack"

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    Hello,

    This concerns the entire folder "10 PERF INTERVAL" of the Violins. When we play a new note from another (and then trigger legato technique), for some transitions there's a disturbing sound, exactly like if the legato sample volume was too high comparing to the note sample.

    Better than trying to explain it further, an audio example (patch 4 lay, monophonic legato, velocity 127) : http://www.mediafire.com/?0nrgpbn761bkn81

    It's notably more obvious on the following transitions :

    - A2 -> B2

    - E3 -> B3

    - B3 -> A3

    - A3 -> B3 - etc...

    ... and really annoying for patches 02 (4 lays), 03 (progressive vibrato) and 04 (strong vibrato).

    I just want to know if it's normal and if there's a trick to get rid of it. Thank you.

    Anthony

    P.S. : If someone knows why there's no carrier return in my messages, would be valuable... that's strange...
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    @crjohnson said:

    Hello, This concerns the entire folder "10 PERF INTERVAL" of the Violins. When we play a new note from another (and then trigger legato technique), for some transitions there's a disturbing sound, exactly like if the legato sample volume was too high comparing to the note sample. Better than trying to explain it further, an audio example (patch 4 lay, monophonic legato, velocity 127) : http://www.mediafire.com/?0nrgpbn761bkn81 It's notably more obvious on the following transitions : - A2 -> B2 - E3 -> B3 - B3 -> A3 - A3 -> B3 - etc... ... and really annoying for patches 02 (4 lays), 03 (progressive vibrato) and 04 (strong vibrato). I just want to know if it's normal and if there's a trick to get rid of it. Thank you. Anthony P.S. : If someone knows why there's no carrier return in my messages, would be valuable... that's strange...
     

    1. I can't hear anything apart from waaaaaaay too much reverb.  [;)]  Could you post with none at all, so that we can hear what you're talking about?
    2. Just check that you are using Velocity xFade?
    3. To format your post correctly, go to Profile and set the content to Enhanced.

    DG
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    @crjohnson said:

    [...] P.S. : If someone knows why there's no carrier return in my messages, would be valuable... that's strange...

    Hi Anthony,

    please follow these instructions to get properly formatted forum messages:

    Kind regards,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    Sorry, here's a one without reverb, and only the most disturbing transitions I'm talking about : http://www.mediafire.com/?baw80fu9rwsbu8c

    At the beginning of a new note, the volume level is remarkably too loud during a few milliseconds and clearly decreases roughly. It's comparable to a low pass filter that takes effect after nearly 200 or 300 milliseconds. The sound loses some brightness after this delay, hear carefully please because it's really distinguishable.

    Generally I use velocity X-Fade yes, for the recording I let it at the maximum value, but the defect is visible too at lower velocities.

    Thanks to DG and Dietz for the format tip.

    Anthony
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     OK, I'm sure that one of the VSL bods could explain it better than I can,but the 4 layer patch is not a proper legato patch, in that the transitions were not recorded as part of the patch. My understanding is that it is a construction of sustain notes with a transition bolted on. I had forgotten about these patches, because I never use them.

    For me the solution is to use the proper legato patches, which only have 2 layers, as far as I remember. One wold think that this is a problem, but I've never found that. Does this answer your question?

    If you really want to use the four layer patches, you may be able to adjust the attack to your liking.

    DG
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    That's exactly what I dreaded, and you gave the perfect answer.

    Thank you DG. All the best !

    Anthony