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It would be hard for me to imagine that you can't produce a single track where each of the patches is set up to a different position in the stereo (panning) field. How would this be done?
I can, in Logic 9 pan any one drum to a specific location but say I wanted two drums sounding at the same time from two different locations? Would I have to set up two separate tracks in Logic for the VSL drums or other percussion tracks?
well, in VI Pro 2 there are 'slots' which can contain different patches. In that mixer you can set different panning per slot.
Here are two patches in slots. I have not panned these but you can see the panners above the faders in the mixer.
for drum kits I usually use BFD2 which gives full control over the mix of the drums and I only need one track for the whole shebang.
I don't have VI Pro so I guess I would have to use separate tracks if I were ever to write anything requiring them. Looks impressive though!
Thanks.
...so I guess I would have to use separate tracks...
Thanks.
Yes. The same way as we are used to play a second violin...
Beat
Without VIPro2 I guess the easiest way to do it would be to load simultaneous matrices (Vienna Instruments) into one instance of Vienna Ensemble. Then program the MIDI (percussion part) into one midi track. Then go back to Vienna Ensemble and pan each Vienna Instrument (matrix) in the Vienna Ensemble mixer Master Bus view.
Now decide how many panning placements you want to make in your mix. Then go back into your sequencer and make how ever many copies of that master MIDI percussion track that you want different placements in the mix. Then delete the notes you don't want in each copied track of the original. Rout each track to the different Vienna Instrument matrix in Vienna Ensemble and there you go. Clear as mud?
I guess my point is, I think it's easier to do this through Vienna Ensemble than it is with multiple instances of Vienna Instruments.
Hello Beat,
I'll be in Zurich next month visiting some in-laws. I'm looking forward to a little down time in your beautiful country.
@jasensmith said:
Hello Beat,
...I'll be in Zurich next month visiting some in-laws. I'm looking forward to a little down time in your beautiful country.
I hope that the weather will be better than now. The April plays a bad game at the moment. It's cold and rainy - so, nothing with beautiful...
Anyway, I wish you a nice time in Zurich - and bring the spring with you, please.
Beat
@jasensmith said:
Without VIPro2 I guess the easiest way to do it would be to load simultaneous matrices (Vienna Instruments) into one instance of Vienna Ensemble. Then program the MIDI (percussion part) into one midi track. Then go back to Vienna Ensemble and pan each Vienna Instrument (matrix) in the Vienna Ensemble mixer Master Bus view.
Now decide how many panning placements you want to make in your mix. Then go back into your sequencer and make how ever many copies of that master MIDI percussion track that you want different placements in the mix. Then delete the notes you don't want in each copied track of the original. Rout each track to the different Vienna Instrument matrix in Vienna Ensemble and there you go. Clear as mud?
I guess my point is, I think it's easier to do this through Vienna Ensemble than it is with multiple instances of Vienna Instruments.
Thanks Jasen,
That means that I'll have to get a better understanding of the matrices which is my next step and which I'll leave for this weekend. But what you wrote does make sense.
Ed
frankly that does not appear to be easier than making more than one track to begin with. also it relies on midi track panning, which isn't the best approach to mixing IME.
frankly that does not appear to be easier than making more than one track to begin with. also it relies on midi track panning, which isn't the best approach to mixing IME.
Unless I misunderstood what you're saying here, this is incorrect. You're not panning individual MIDI tracks, you're panning the VI instances within Vienna Ensemble. The panning (power panning) is performed in Vienna Ensemble.
As with creating multiple tracks to begin with... well, to each his own I guess but I prefer to keep all of my programing consolidated to one track and use that track as a master. then make multiple copies of that track. Perhaps you're more skilled at MIDI programing than I.
I hope that the weather will be better than now. The April plays a bad game at the moment. It's cold and rainy - so, nothing with beautiful...
Anyway, I wish you a nice time in Zurich - and bring the spring with you, please.
Beat
I live in Tucson, Arizona and it's usually pretty hot here in May so a little cold and rain would be welcomed actually.
