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  • OK! I understand know. Could anyone tell me trustable/cheap brands for 64GB Ram kit (8x8)? Also I believe popular IntelĀ® Coreā„¢ i7-3930K Processor (12M Cache, 3.20 GHz) is on 2 months waiting list at the moment.

  • Dont buy cheap memory, buy waranted memory

    I use Crucial ssd and memory


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  • Martin, as a long time user of VSL with a Mac, I am finally getting to the point (having purchased MIR PRO) of thinking of a change to PC. Would you be able to give me the name of a company who could build a pc for me with the latest top level specs (such as you described) designed to work with VSL and music? I am afraid that I have neither the ability or wish to attempt to build it myself.

    Best wishes, Roy


  • Sorry, I don't have any personal experience with any DAW builders myself. I suppose these are usually local companies. Perhaps someone else might chime in?


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    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Can anyone confirm that G.Skill RipJawsZ DIMM Kit 64GB PC3-10667U (http://geizhals.at/de/706321) is compatible with Intel DX79SI Motherboard. Thanks

  • You need to be very carefull if you are thinking of a 5.1 MIR configuration, If I was you I will wait so all bugs of VEP 5 and MIR PRO are sorted.

    We are  experimenting quite a few problems of clicks, pops, big cracks, hanging notes, missing notes. We are a lot asking for guidance from VSL [:$]  

    I have just expand my system to 32 GB yesterday, I have to move today all my libs on ssd, so tomorow I should be able to do more test to see if it is possible to have a 5.1 or 7.1 Mir configuration on a Macpro 12 core 32 GB and a lot of ssd, today the best Macpro availlable !

    With MIR PRO you need one license per computer, at 795 euro each, it is making the PC VERY expensive,

    if you have to have 24 or 32 GB, one or two 256 gb ssd per PC,  the bill is very far from 1 000 euro


    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  •  Paul, Many thanks for your response. Regards, Roy


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    @MS said:

    Best performance for the price is the PC, hands down. The Core-i7 3930K should be the sweetspot for price/performance right now. It will enable you to build an extremely capable system with 32GB ram (excluding drives) for around 1000 eur. With a couple of SSD's added I don't know if you would ever run into the CPU limit.

    Windows 7 is also better performing than OSX for audio applications.

    I'm in the same situation as eljodon. Want to add a slave PC to my Mac Pro 3,1 8 core running with Logic 9. I was thinking in a 2x Xeon E5620 2.40 GHz with 24 Gb RAM

    Are u saying that the model you suggested is more powerfun than this? Please, let me know. I'm very lost regarding processors, motherboards...

    Thank you šŸ˜Š


  • If you can wait a week or two the new Xeon have been annouced  !

    I will wait for those, they should be more powerfull than the 2 x I7

    2x8 cores !!! 16 cores running at 3ghz !! wow !!!


    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  • There have been some rather painful threads regarding Mac vs. PC.

    In those threads it is worth noting that VSL employees repeatedly state that their products work better on PC.  Certainly if one is absolutely a Mac devotee, you will do fine.  Nevertheless, if VSL employees suggest PC's, that is worth strong consideration when purchasing VSL software.

    One key question: what are you intending to create?  If you are working primarily with small chamber type ensembles in a stereo mix, less computer power is needed than if you require say 80 tracks in 5.1 surround.  My older MIR SE runs decently enough on an older i7 930, but using all 32 tracks pushes its limits.  I would not even begin to attempt to run MIR Pro on that sort of system.  For what I am doing, a future upgrade to a 3930 would be fine (not happening for some time though).

    Depending on your needs, you may very well only need one slave, and therefore only one MIR Pro license.

    Finally, note that strict devotion to one particular computer platform is generally not helpful or the most wise way to go.  Each platform has its uses, and wisdom is often to use the strengths of each platform (for many: Mac for sequencing, PC for slave).  Disclaimer: although I have used Macs in the past, I currently use only PC's.


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    @noldar12 said:

    My older MIR SE runs decently enough on an older i7 930, but using all 32 tracks pushes its limits.  I would not even begin to attempt to run MIR Pro on that sort of system.  For what I am doing, a future upgrade to a 3930 would be fine (not happening for some time though).

    Thanks Noldar12, this is very interesting ; on my 12 core Macpro I have 97 VI and 3 input and I am using 60 % of it's power


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  • I'm running a large orchestra on a PC (win 7) with i7 960 (3.2GHz) . 24Gb triple memory RAM, WD Caviar Black drives - VE Pro with MIR Pro, no glitches no issues, just works every day.

    Seems an 8 core PC is somewhat adequate.............   Steinberg, East West and VSL all recommed using a PC.  Windows manages core allocation better than OSX, which is probably the main reason.


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    @andyjh said:

     Windows manages core allocation better than OSX, which is probably the main reason.

    When I use VSL SERVER and MIR PRO my 12 cores MAC, the core are equaly load ballanced. The 2nd Thread of each core is loaded at 50 % of it's core


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    @andyjh said:

    I'm running a large orchestra on a PC (win 7) with i7 960 (3.2GHz) . 24Gb triple memory RAM, WD Caviar Black drives - VE Pro with MIR Pro, no glitches no issues, just works every day.

    How large  is your VE ? is it in stereo, in 5.1 or in 7.1 ?


    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  • Thanx for all the answers.

    Cyril, I can wait a week or two. Even more. I'm not gonna get it inmediately.

    As far as the painful threads about Mac vs PC I'm really tired of that. Macs are great. PCs too. Period. As noldar12 says, it's amatter of taste. I've been using Mac for 20 years and Logic since vers. 3 or 4 (don't remember) and am too old to learn a new DAW. Probably I'll stick with Mac for sequencing and getting a PC as slave since Macs prices are way high. Also the fact of many companies say their products run better in PCs is an added bonus.

    Regarding my needs they are different in each project. I don't use Vienna Instruments. Just Kontakt libreries, PLAY and some Omnisphere, as well as EXS Instruments. I can use a very small template of 5 to 10 instruments or go for a bigger one with 40 to 50. It really depends. Not using 5.1 or 7.1 but mixing in stereo. At some point I'd love to use MIR Pro or MIR Pro SE when it comes available.

    Thanks again :)


  • Cyril, 12 cores should to a lot better than one of the older, almost the slowest, i7 4 cores.  For much of what I do, in terms of smaller chamber ensembles, it does quite fine.  It does manage the 32 tracks, but to really go any further and get above the 32 track limit using MIR Pro, something better would be required.  As I do not anticipate ever doing surround, a newer 6 core, with 24 gigs of RAM, would be fine, but that upgrade is likely will likely not happen for another year or so.


  • I just receive this table :

    You pay for what you have inside the box

    A PC/MAC that is containing an I7 proc a 1096$ cannot be sold at 500 $


    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  • Unfortunately, that table does not include what many builders regard as the best chip currently available for DAW use, the i7 3930k.  Granted, that table only includes 4 core chips, while the i7 3930k is a 6 core chip.