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    Thanks a lot Karel

    Thats what i was looking for. I will start with one instance and load it to the max.

    Regarding the routing, I figured a way of using the Kontakt mixer aux to route to VE Pro Input channels. I set-up a mixer in Kontakt with 12 auxes (each named as Strings hi, string Lo, WW Hi, WW Lo, etc) and have the instruments in Kontakt output to one of the Aux within Kontakt, depending on the patch. Then the Aux outs serve as inputs in the Input Channels. However, the Aux name in Kontakt does not appear the same in VE Pro.

    For instance, I have Kontakt 4 1 in one channel with the Aux outputs names Str hi, Str Lo. When I assign the input of the input channel, the name will be something like 'Kontakt 4 1 2' which corresponds to 'Str Hi', or ' Kontakt 4 1 3' which corresponds to 'Str Lo'.

    Is there a way for VE Pro to see the names of the Kontakt mixer Auxes? This will make it easier to assign the right Aux output to the right Input channel. Or can you point me to where I can find information on setting up Kontakt Aux within VE Pro?


    I appreciate your help
    Jean Paul
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    @Jean Paul said:

    Thanks a lot Karel

    Thats what i was looking for. I will start with one instance and load it to the max.

    Jean Paul

     

    Make sure that you set as many threads per instance as you can (i.e. that you don't need for Pro Tools) in the VE Pro Preferences.

    DG
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    @DG said:

    Make sure that you set as many threads per instance as you can (i.e. that you don't need for Pro Tools) in the VE Pro Preferences.



    Thanks DG. (Daryl is that you?) I will experiment and see how it goes.

    I just wish there is way for VE Pro to 'see' the Auxes names assigned in Kontakt. This will make it easy and intuitive to route everything to the right channel.
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    @DG said:

    Make sure that you set as many threads per instance as you can (i.e. that you don't need for Pro Tools) in the VE Pro Preferences.

    Thanks DG. (Daryl is that you?) I will experiment and see how it goes.

     

    You guessed it.....!

    DG
  • J
    J
    Good to see you here! and thanks for your advice

    best
    JP
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     As you can see, this is my usual haunt. [8-|]

    DG
  • L
    L

    Any progress in the template ?

    I am stocked with the multi instruments set-ups of kontakt . I was able to output 2 instruments with one instance of kontakt to prot tools and play them and record midi , but the second instance of kontakt doesn't route properly in pro tools with other out puts, and midi, I don't know what to do. Any advice ?
  • J
    J

     Yes, the template is working just fine. I am using 3 instances of 64-bit VEP, each with 16 instances of Kontakt (and a few omnisphere). The template is around 12 GB, but most patches are purged in kontakt to minimize usage. Once in a while I re-purge everything to keep it lean.

    Make sure you set up the number of midi ports to 16 and audio inputs to 32 or more in VEP. You also have to create several aux output channels in Kontakt and set that to your default (close kontakt and re-open). For example, one Kontakt instance in one of the VEP instances, contain 16 instruments that are routed to 16 midi tracks in Pro Tools. You assign midi port 1 for that kontakt instance. Just as an example, out of these 16 patches, you have 8 flute articualtions (sus, stacc, runs, grace, etc) and 8 oboe articulations..So you want to output all 8 flute patches into one Audio input channel in VEP seperate from the audio input for the oboe. That way you can apply different EQ, reverb for each group. From within Kontakt, you would assign all flute patches to St. output 3/4 and all oboe to St. output 5/6. (normally St. output 1/2 goes to the master channel in VEP). You can have more grouping if you want more control.

    You create 2 input channles in VEP and use the output assignments in Kontakt as the inputs. Make sure you have set the number of audio output in VEP, and assign an output to each audio input bus. These outputs will serve as the inputs for the aux channels in Pro Tools. You do that for all orchestral instruments, grouping them as you see fit. The main criteria is how you want to apply reverb for the various patches, especially if you are mixing instruments from various libraries that do not have similar reverb.

    You repeat the same with the next Kontakt instance, assigning midi  port 2-all. Once the kontakt isntance is full, save it as a multi and back-it with a version number (like Strings 1.1), as you make changes and balance the volumes, you will keep a kack-up and save it as version 1.2. Do that for all yout kontakt instruments, grouping their kontakt outputs as you see fit for your mixing and FX applications.

    For instance, I have grouped my strings as per the library they came from, then by Shorts and Longs in VEP, but they are bussed in pro Tools to Strings Hi and String Lo aux channels. Reverb is done wihtin VEP through sends to an aux channel that has an algorithmic reverb for ER and positioning, and the aux channels in pro tools have sends to a reverb channel with Lex for the reverb tail. EQ is done in VEP mainly, to preserve CPU power, but I also use occasional EQ in PT on Str-hi and Str-lo channels with plugins that are not yet 64 bit (like Waves SSL).

    Hope this helps.

    JP
  • L
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    Thanks so much for the great explaination , it's working !
  • J
    J

    You're most welcome

    JP
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    Hi Jp,

    hi all,

    me i have a another method to use VEPRO5 with Protools 10 or 11 in Localhost.

    then in protools, i create directly a "instruments tracks" for each output of my instance Kontakt.

    ex: _VEPRO1 Kontakt Percu out 1/2--> Instrument track PERCU  input Midichanel 1/2 (percu)

          _VEPRO1 Kontakt Horns out 2/3--> Instrument track HORNS input Midichanel 3/4 (Horns)

          ...

    Is that clear? sorry my english is so *"Mauvais".

    the advantage of this (to me) is to avoid creating duplicate (doublon) midi and audio tracks in Protools.
    Is that a good Method?

    All regards,

    Sam

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