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[...]I dot make accusation, just allow MIR to route basses to the LFE, and I am happy or refund me of MIR [...]
You obviously didn't read (or don't want to understand) what both Martin and I were trying to explain.
I suggest you get in contact with 
Regards,
@Dietz said:
You obviously didn't read (or don't want to understand) what both Martin and I were trying to explain.
I think I have understand your point of view, MIR is not made for musician that are writing music for films. It is made to reproduce hall ambiance of a classical concert
Am I wrong ?
I was loving MIR it is a GREAT SOFTWARE, it is a pitty that you cannot improve it so it can be also used for dolby Film music requirement.
i will contact Sales
All the best for 2012
Best
Cyril
@MS said:
I don't see how I can improve on my last post, so I'll simply refer to it again.
Hello Martin,
Do you have a 5.1 or 7.1 system on your TV set ?
If yes, watch a movie from a Blue Ray disk with sound in Dolby, Dolby PLIIX, DTS.... and turn on and off the LFE during heavy musical parts, you will ear no more bass, the drums kick will be very week, the bass synth too.
While writing this I am watching ARTE HD, the best of 2011 for classical music, I can tell you that in some pieces they use the LFE
I have a few questions :
- In the Mixer If you place a surround panning before or under MIR what is happening ? (they may be a solution there and to add a little reverb in Logic)
- Did you solve with Logic people the 5.0 problem ?
All the best for 2012
Cyril
You won't read it anyway, but I'll explain it to you for the 5th or 6th time:
You don't "turn off the LFE" in these bass-managed TV-surround sets, you're turning off the sub-woofer. Like pointed out before, that's not the same.
It's almost certain that the sub-woofer will also carry the LFE-signal, but without checking the raw audio data you won't know what really went into this channel.
I mixed several dozens of huge music productions in surround, some of them became award-winning, multi-platinum selling products. They were mastered in the most esteemed mastering houses in Europe, where no-one ever complained. I can tell you that apart from a little "woop woop" from a bass-drum (just for the sake of it) there was no signal in the LFE channel whatsoever.
[...]- In the Mixer If you place a surround panning before or under MIR what is happening ?
[...]
Like mentioned in MIR Pro's manual, remove / don't use the surround panner in a channel that carries a MIR Pro signal.
While writing this I am watching ARTE HD, the best of 2011 for classical music, I can tell you that in some pieces they use the LFE
ARTE only broadcasts dolby surround signals in 2.0, there's absolutely no transmission of a .1 channel.
The signal that you obviously hear from your subwoofer is being created by some kind of bass management of your receiver.
You shouldn't think about using the LFE channel for a music soundtrack as it's not made for that purpose, most soundtracks are in fact only 4.0
best regards
Florian
@florian said:
ARTE only broadcasts dolby surround signals in 2.0, there's absolutely no transmission of a .1 channel.
The signal that you obviously hear from your subwoofer is being created by some kind of bass management of your receiver.
You shouldn't think about using the LFE channel for a music soundtrack as it's not made for that purpose, most soundtracks are in fact only 4.0
best regards
Florian
sorry Florian you have to check your sources :
http://investor.dolby.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=344375
PARIS, Oct 31, 2008.........
Initial services available on TNT HD include popular channels TF1 HD, France 2 HD, ARTE HD, Canal+ HD, and M6 HD. Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby Digital audio will allow viewers to enjoy broadcasts in 5.1 surround sound as well as stereo.
sorry Florian you have to check your sources :
http://investor.dolby.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=344375
PARIS, Oct 31, 2008.........
Cyril, you really can trust me, in this case my sources are the best one could possibly imagine.
best regards
@Dietz said:
You don't "turn off the LFE" in these bass-managed TV-surround sets, you're turning off the sub-woofer. Like pointed out before, that's not the same.
It's almost certain that the sub-woofer will also carry the LFE-signal, but without checking the raw audio data you won't know what really went into this channel.
I have re-read the documentation of the Denon 3808.
We are talking of the same but not using the same words, on the documentation of my Denon amplifier you set the subwoofer to play LFE or LFE + Main
now we are in agrement ! [;)]
We have investigated the surround handling in Logic. The problem is that Logic is sending wrong configurations to the VEPro AU Plugin. Logic can even request configurations that the plugin reportedly does not support, which is a breach of the AU specification from Logics side. We have tried to create several workarounds for this, without success. We are awaiting reply from Apple developers on how to proceed in this matter.
So for now, when using Logic and using a 5.1 or 6.1 surround setup, the VEPro plugin will be initialized as 5.0 or 6.0 respectively. However, since the LFE channel should never be used for music mixing, it should not be much of an issue. Hopefully Apple gets around to solving this bug as soon as possible.
Hi Paul
Why dont you give us a beta, that will help you a lot as your Beta team left quite a few holes in VEP 5 and in MIR
Best
Cyril
