Ok thanks actually I'm going to check that out myself. VSL's Powerpan is quite a bit more powerful than the Cubase panner but yes it does have that function. As for mono instruments - I suppose I just never saw any particular gain in doing that, but I can see how it would be useful. It's definitely preferable (to me anyway) to use one channel of the stereo mix if you are going for a completely mono sound.

@mpower88 said:

[...] It's definitely preferable (to me anyway) to use one channel of the stereo mix if you are going for a completely mono sound.

... which is not necessarily a good idea, as you may lose signal components that are not inherent to both sides. It might be obvious in cases like grand piano, marimba, vibraphone, or any kind of ensemble. But the same is true (in a less obvious) way for any kind of instrument that isn't recorded exactly from the symmetry axis.

Well there you have it, perhaps that's why I never liked the sound of doing that myself. IMO, you can go close to mono with the power pan, but not mono, and Dietz now says using one channel of the stereo pair is not advisable which in my experience is usually right - although I wasn't thinking of piano but more specifically individual instruments, clarinet, oboe, etc. Obviously I don't think you would want to do that for any ensemble parts or larger instruments like piano.

@mpower88 said:

[...] I wasn't thinking of piano but more specifically individual instruments, clarinet, oboe, etc. Obviously I don't think you would want to do that for any ensemble parts or larger instruments like piano.

Of course not - I was just trying to give some exaggerated examples to make clear what I'm talking about. 😊

 What is there difference in the audible results when using the VE Pro Power Panner vs the Power Panner which comes with Vienna Suite?

Mahlon

As long as you use the same features (and the same pan-law!), there should be none. VS Power Panner has more options, though (Pre/Post Balance, Phase Switches etc.) and of course better visualisation.

OTOH, VE Pro 5 offers full-fledged surround-panning, which VS can't do.

HTH,

You know what, I think Dietz would better answer that. I tend to use the panners in VE Pro and suite fairly simply - for panning and playing around with the stereo width - it In fact I generally don't use the Suite panner, I find the one in VE Pro perfectly good. The one in Vienna Suite comes with more options, you can control the left right balance at the input and the output of the panner. Why don't you download the trial and try it out.

And MIR of course removes any real need for any of that, taking care of positioning and stereo width all within MIR...

@mpower88 said:

And MIR of course removes any real need for any of that, taking care of positioning and stereo width all within MIR...

[Y]

 Thanks for the answer. I've mostly used the VE Pro (4) version so far, but the VS version is visually easier. Sometimes I can't tell if there's a difference in sound because I'm deaf in one ear. So, a lot of my panning has to be done almost intellectually, as there's no stereo for me.

I need to try out MIR. Looks and sounds good to me. But I just bought VS, so have to replenish the purse first.

Mahlon