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  • [:@] <- him

    LOL


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    Second try! [<:o)]

    It's a weekend, that's why I couldn't simply replace the file on our server. Please use this YouSendIt-link to download the fixed file in the meantime (the link will expire in one week). It's packed into a ZIP-archive and should be around 99 kB once it is opened.

    I was going back to the original MIR Project file for that, and there was indeed all the processing I was talking about before (some compression and EQing on the piano, more processing on the bass). I got confused by the fact that I tried other versions in other Venues later, but the one you all know it the one I liked most.

    Let me know it this works now.

    Kind regards,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • What a kindly service, Dietz! Thanks so much again! Download done and it seems to work, after I've open it shows 99KB.

    So I will load and look in it sunday morning and will be all ears. (And will give a feedback, of course.)

     Have a nice weekend and best wishes!

    Frank


  • You're welcome!

    BTW  - Chris Marin (aka. CM on these pages) has already replaced the files in the "official" links, too. Enough said about us VSL guys and weekends ... 8-)


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • After the little inserts back to the proper meaning of this thread: Did load the file without any problems - and  very  a m a z i n g !! 

    First, I was surprised about using double EQing - inside vienna imperial and with the inserted EQ. And the EQ settings! Don't want to go deeper in the details, but that balanced using of low frequencies of room with the light extenuated brillance in the c - c1 octave makes the difference, specially for this kind of piano jazz, because this oktave is used for the compings. So you got with this mix the very fine contrast between the chords ans single melody-lines in the higher ranges (more light and airy) with the lower compings (warm and dark) and you got fore- and background like two different instruments for the piano only.  YES! - I aimed at that sound (and never got  t h i s  one)! So these file are very very useful for me and it is a real gift, Dietz! So thanks so much again, it's not taked for granted. 

    I saw the lot of insert tweaks for the bass too, and of course the using of the classical drum preattunements in MIR for the jazz drum.[:O]

    But will have a closer look to the rhythm section later this week. I'm impatient to do this! [:)]

    Kind regards

    Frank


  • Great to hear that it worked out finally! Phew! :-)

    The EQ-settings inside the Vienna Imperial player are just "my" standard setting - I use this most of the time, simply because there are a few resonances I don't like to hear. Only the EQ in the channel strip is for shaping sound. I would do pretty much the same with any real recording of a piano, too - the big difference is that in case of the Vienna Imperial I just had to do the "surgical" part just once ;-D ...

    The processing of the bass looks a bit overdone, but considering that the PowerPan just reverses the left and right channels it's actually mostyl common stuff. The MultiBand is the exception - like wrote above I used it mainly to tame the fret-noises, as they disturbed the sense of distance.

    Please - don't take the processing of the Jazz Drums too serious. I was just fooling around a bit and simply kept what I liked. No secret Master Plan in the background. ;-)

    I like to emphasize that the _real_ magic still happens in the room, i.e. within MIR. Finding a good spot for any instrument in a room or on a stage makes everything so much easier, and with MIR you _have_ the choice. ("... die halbe Miete", as we say in German).

    ... and in the end all of this just works because it's a marvelous piece of music, and it was masterfully performed by Christoph Unterberger.

    Kind regards,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    Thanks for explanations!

    @Another User said:

    ... and in the end all of this just works because it's a marvelous piece of music, and it was masterfully performed by Christoph Unterberger.

     And yes again, the sound-settings are blooming by courtesy of this two perfectly working hands!

    Frank


  • Dietz,

    I tried to start a new project using the sentimental template you provided us a while back.  It's is telling me now that I don't have the room installed for this, however every room I own and have opens fine.  Could this be a symptom of the upgraded room packs and software?

    Thanks kindly as I am in need of this sound.

    Maestro2be


  • Could it be that you deleted the "old" V1-RoomPack? The Project will look for the data it used when you saved it the last time.

    For migrating an existing V1-Project to V2, you have to have them installed both on your system.

    HTH,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thanks Dietz,

    i don't remember ever deleting or telling the installer to delete the original version 1 roompacks but they weren't in the folder.  I downloaded them from the archives on the website and installed them.  It's working great!

    Thanks again,

    Maestro2be


  • Good to hear!

    Still - at some point there must have gone something wrong. The installer definitely doesn't delete older RoomPacks. If you happen to find out whatever the reason was, please let us know.

    All the best,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @cgernaey said:

    I do have some velocity issues to resolve though which is another issue though.  I need to figure out how to map velocity curves into this piano as I can't find a curve in the software.  I would love to improve the dynamic performace of my Keyboard into the software more closely.  I think it would instantly raise the quality another leap and bound.

    Maestro2be

    I don't know any keyboard wich could come closely to the dynamic range of the vienna imperial; if you want a real sound you have to tweak it in the editor of your sequencer; I never can play so soft how this grand piano is sampled, and specially the lower velocities have a beautiful sound!! If somebody have another experience and knows a keyboard which is able to do that - let me know here! Thanks in advance! Frank