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  • PaulP
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    Hello Stephen,

    I understand you point, and I agree that we can improve the educational part.

    I am also talking to many composers and am constantly surprised on how different the work-flow of each and every single one is. Not to mention the different tastes in music, sound, reverbs, sequencers, OS´s....

    In the end it´s all about how the music sounds, but you are right, it is very interesting to watch someone explain his approach. We cannot force anyone to share the secrets of his "personal sound" and I believe that Christian Kardeis is actually very generous when he shares his knowledge with the Special Edition Demos he is composing.

    I am open to hear your suggestions, and we´ll do our best to share more ideas and approaches, especially with MIR PRO around the corner!

    Our main goal is to create the tools for virtual orchestrations and to continue recording new instruments, giving your more options and possibilities. Of course our manuals and video tutorials should give you a good idea on how to use our products best to reach your musical goals, and we´re happy to answer questions, both in our forum and via

    Best,

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    Maybe there should be a special thread with a thumbtack: "Tips donated for your improvement" So anyone could donate a tip that works well for him.

    But I agree with Paul, not 2 composers work the same way.
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    I put together a web site to illustrate some of the information that might be helpful when listening to demos. I agree that people have various methods of working and if these were shared, hopefully a substantive dialogue could emerge to the benefit of everyone. This is how the scientific community works and it results as a fertile bed of shared ideas that lead to new insights and methods. The website is a general overview of how one person works. http://web.me.com/stephenwbeatty/Site/Welcome.html

    Regards,

    Stephen W. Beatty 
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    That is a fantastic idea Guy. I just had a chance to look at VI Pro last night [jaw dropping]. While Pauls excellent videos are a great help to get an overview and idea, it might be an idea as well to supply a few well layed out VIP presets as a starting point as well, perhaps using SE as a basis. With the wealth of options available, it can be a little bit a daunting experience for a new user to find a start and create useful presets. Having said that, a complex instrument such as VIP certainly requires a learning curve, time and effort to familiarize yourself with the options available. It is not as easy as say Symphobia style - plugin and play - but offers much more attention to details of course, hence needs expertise to handle it. Off I go.... learning.... :)
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    I'm very impressed with Christian K's work.  Would love to see him teach a class on VI.  I've spent years learning VI techniques that work for me & suspect that this sort of "class" would have sped up the process, & would result in less pulling-of-hair for those climbing the learning curve.
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    I'm very impressed with Christian K's work.  Would love to see him teach a class on VI.  I've spent years learning VI techniques that work for me & suspect that this sort of "class" would have sped up the process, & would result in less pulling-of-hair for those climbing the learning curve.
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    I posted another composition with notes on my website

    http://web.me.com/stephenwbeatty/Site/Welcome.html

    Hopefully, the notes with the music will help with the tearing of hair and gnashing of

    teeth in frustration. I am trying to present some of the problems that I deal with

    everyday some of which still are in process.

    Regards,

    Stephen W. Beatty  
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    Hi Stephen,

    the Audiocation Akademie's first VSL online course will also be given in English in near future. Here is the link to the announcement for the German version:

    http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/28098.aspx


    If you would like to be notified on the release of the English version, please send me an email at goran@audiocation.de.
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    I am currently struggeling with getting "good" string sound out of Standard Edition. I think it would help to make lots tutorials for beginners (edition)

    I think Guys movies are excellent but mainly for the bigger libs.

    So A project with only strings (e.g.: quartet), with lots of Cell Crossfades (e.g.: I find the attacks of the sustain and legato patches very slow) and all the controller information would be immense valuable for me.

    Gabriel
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    @gabriel81 said:

    I am currently struggeling with getting "good" string sound out of Standard Edition.

    Take a look at my second link (under the line). Has some, in my immodest opinion fairly "good" string sound done with the VSL SE (Bach and Schumann examples could be of interest to you, Bruckner is deliberatly very "dirty" (emulating an old LP master).
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    I was already visiting your sites before (and pondering you training offer as well)

    These examples are SE only? Very nice ;)
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    @gabriel81 said:

    I was already visiting your sites before (and pondering you training offer as well)

    These examples are SE only? Very nice 😉

    Thanks, I am glad you like them. Yes, all VSL examples (Mozart is not VSL) with the exception of some patches in Schumann's string quartett and the piano part in Bach's Piano Concerto are SE exclusively (that is, all Bach and Bruckner strings). In the meantime I have included two new masters of Bach's Air on G string (on the English demo page) - the third (old "analog" master) is a combination of VSL SE and HSO strings.

    If you'll have any questions related to the course, don't hesitate to ask.
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