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  • VI Special Edition - legato polyphonic? Can I do them?

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     Hi,

    I am using VE PRO Server and Digital Performer on the same Mac Pro. And VI Special Edition.

    I have some Horn chords. Three part chords I have a sustain sound loaded in VI.

    The first chord sounds fine. But if the next chord has notes that were in the first chord these notes do not sound - only the new notes sound.

    The chords are three note chords that fill the measure, then the next measure has a chord that starts at the beginning of the measure. So the notes in the next chord start exactly where the last chord stopped. The notes that are the same in each chord don;t sound.

    If I take the note off duration of the first note back an 8th, then even if it is the same note in the next measure it will souond. BUt if the notes go hard up against each other they don't sound. BUt if the next chord has all new notes then they all sound.

    Something with the notes not getting the note off and then back on message??
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    It looks like I am dealing with legato and monophony and polyphony limitation?

    Amd I simply dealing with a limitation of my Special Editions package?

    Do I need something to get legato repitions of the same note? An upgrade to VI Special Edition?
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP
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    Hi Dean,

    Which articulations are you using? If you have Velocity Xfade switched on, and maybe also the Release Samples, the polyphony is getting limited.You can increase the polyphony of each Vienna Instruments instance with the following shortcut:“Ctrl+Alt+P” (Mac:”Apple+Alt+P”)
    changes polyphony, simply enter, e.g., "128"

    => This will tax the CPU some more, but should help in your situation.

    As an alternative:

    Vienna Instruments PRO will give you polyphonic legato and a very easy way to switch polyphony (in the "Options" tab), so it might be interesting to check out the free demo license (click "try").

    Here are the video tutorials for VI PRO.

    Best,

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    Thanks Paul I will check that. I have not encountered this before - on my old system.

    I did just move to a new Mac Pro and maybe I have forgot to set something global?

    I did look at the VI PRO video and saw that polu mono switch.

    Where is that setting in VI Standard I see it mentioned in the Forum but I can't find it?
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hello Dean,

    in the original Vienna Instruments, there is no polyphonic legato, it´s only in VI PRO, along with a ton of new features...

    Best,

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    I tried the polyphony to 128. No fix.

    I tried the VEL XF and REL faders to zero on the PERFORM tab. No fix.

    None of my legato chords are playing on properly. I am testing on horns but also Marimba. If a note repeats from the first chord to the next chord, and it is lagato, the repeated note will not soound.

    Do I need a restart of Vienna for these changes to take effect?
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    I tried with restarting the instrument. But not Digital Performer no fix.

    I turned off the switches to VelXF and REL. No fix.

    I can see the 128 Polyphony is sticking.
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    I made a mistake in terminology.

    I am not using the legato patch. I am using 22S HO-a4 sustain.

    I am simply using it legato style with chords.

    I can get polyphony - I hear the three notes of the first chord. I can hear a chord. It is simply that when the next chord starts, if it uses notes that we in the first chord, I don't hear them.

    I am happy to by VI PRO I just don't see that as my problem right now. What I have should work for this task.
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    I went to Pro Tools 9 and did a test and I can hear all the notes of the chords as they should be so I have some problem in Digital Performer.

    Sorry to bother you guys. If you think of what it might be don't hestate to let me know! 
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     Hi DeanPk,

    afaik some sequenzers might handle notes which are on the same key kind of erratic if the notes are overlapping or nearly connected, which can happen when using notation or manual input in a piano role editor.

    Usually you can avoid this behaviour when you leave small gaps between this notes.

    Maybe this information is helpful.

    best

    Herb