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    @Dietz said:

    Welcome Mniedack!

    A few questions: Assuming you used an AUX-channel for the VS Convolution Reverb - did you mute the "Dry" signal? Are you using a stereo AUX channel for the Reverb? Is it routed to a stereo bus or output?

    Kind regards,

    Hello Dietz,

    I am using the reverb in a stereo aux track.

    Aux Track Input: Bus 3-4, Output: Interface Output 1-2 (Master)

    Fader "Dry" show "-inf", Fader "Wet" show "0,0db". The sound doesn´t change while muting the dry-signal.

    The original signal is a recorded sound from a classical orchestra in a concert hall. It is wide and transparent but rather dry. Adding the reverb, the sound becomes less stereo. It sounds to be more centered. It sounds as if a mono reverb is added to the original stereo signal.

    Kind regards,


  • Seen from the distance, you do everything right.

    I use VS Convolution Reverb quite a lot in ProTools, although in its HD-version, so there is a slight chance that there is something wrong with the plugin in LE, but I don't think so.

    Would you mind to post two small audio snippets of both the dry  and the "wrong" wet signal? And please tell us which preset you used.

    TIA,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • here is the link to the zip-file that includes:
    - original dry signal
    - wet signal (WetSignal-03SymphonyHall.wav) with the parameters shown in plugin.jpg
    - a wet signal from another reverb (WetSignal-otherHallPlugIn.wav)

    thank you
    best regards
    Matthias

    www.n-medien.de/zip/reverb-test.zip

  • Hi Matthias,

    thanks for posting the files.

    I'm sorry to say that there must something else going wrong, because here the rendered VS-reverb sounds perfectly stereo. The main difference in comparison  to the other reverb-rendering is the fact that it is a few dBs lower in volume (.... and of course it sounds better ;-D ...).

    Please take a look at the screenshot below:

    [URL=http://img46.imageshack.us/i/vsrevtest.jpg/][IMG]http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3708/vsrevtest.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    ... what you see is your VS Convolution Reverb rendering brought up by several dB, playing in solo mode. The Goniometer image of the signal displays a circle, the Correlation meter below it a value around +/- 0 ... two indicators that the signal is almost perfect stereo (more or less 100% decorrelation between the left and the right side).

    All I can do is to ask you to re-check the routing, please.

    HTH,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • routing: the same routing with other reverb plugin (wizoo) sounds wide stereo. So the routing could not be the mistake.

    Another idea: I opened the dry file in wavelab 6 and used the convolution reverb with the same preset, but VST.
    The result is wide and open stereo reverb sound.
    http://www.n-medien.de/zip/reverb-wavlab.zip

    It seems to be an error in the combination of the plugin of Convolution Reverb (RTAS) with protools 8 ?!

    thank you
    best regards
    Matthias


  • Hello Matthias,

    The thought seems to be logical - but why would then the ProTools-rendered reverb file be full stereo ...? Apart from that: As I told you before, I used VS Convolution Reverb for literally hundreds of productions since we released it, both in VST format (Nuendo or Cubase / PC) and RTAS (ProTools HD / OSX), and I can't remember a similar problem.

    I will ask our developers to look into it nonetheless.

    Kind regards,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • The audio in www.n-medien.de/zip/reverb-test.zip sounds perfectly stereo, so it seems you may have some routing issue outside VS Converb.


  • BTW: Matthias, would you mind to post your seemingly mono-ized ProTools-"mix", too? Up to now, I don't have the slightest idea what you're actually hearing! :-)


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thank you for trying to help.
    It is a little bit difficult for me to explane the problem correct in english language.
    I will try again tomorrow.
    Of course it is a stereo signal. But the sound is different an worse as it is e.g. using the plugin in wavelab.

    I will show the steps of handling and make another detailed example to explain it.

    Kind regards
    Matthias

  • If it's easier for you, feel free to write a mail in German to our support address VSL Support. Add the note "fuer Dietz" to the subject, just to make sure it gets assigned to me.

    Kind regards,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library