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  • Questions about polyphonic legato

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    ... at least not for me.  I have the latest versions of VI Pro and VE Pro.  Tried loading the Hns à 4 performance legato patch into a VI Pro instance in VE Pro.  With the interval mode set to mono, works as it always had - monophonic legato.  If I change the interval mode to Poly, it acts like a sustain patch - no legato functionality, all notes play and sustain for as long as you hold them.  What am I missing?

    Thanks,

    Peter
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     OK, having searched the forum and read some other threads, I see that others share my confusion about polyphonic legato. (I also changed the subject heading because I realize it may indeed be working as designed.)  Several people have kinda sorta asked similar questions but I didn't find a clear answer.  FYI I did watch the tutorial video. Here's what I'd love to know:

    1. Let's say you have the poly option enabled and you play a monophic two-note legato phrase.  If you start the second note before releasing the first note, is the first note supposed to be automatically cut off by the second (as in mono legato mode)?

    2. If not, still sticking with the two-note phrase I mentioned, is the idea that with poly legato enabled, transition samples will be triggered but the player is now responsible for releasing the note in a musically sensible fashion?

    Thanks,

    Peter
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     Hi Peter,

    if poly option is enabled there are no automatically cut offs any more, because than it couldn't be polyphonic.

    So it's up to you how much overlap you need, and you decide if the second note you  play is already a second voice or just the next note of a polyphonic line.

    best

    Herb
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    P

    Thanks, Herb.  I wondered if VSL was intelligently figuring out which voice led to which voice and cutting off initial notes that way, but that makes sense.  I'm looking forward to checking it out.

    Peter
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     It's a realtime application, so any intelligent analysis would only possible with adding a lot of latency to analyse incoming datas, which wouldn't make any sense for keyboard performances.

    There is the sustain pedal feature implemented (which is also shown in the video tutorial) where you can force a starting note for a second voice (instead of triggereing a legato connected note) anytime you need it.

    best

    Herb
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    M

     Hi Herb et al.,

    This is, of course, understandable, although I had the same question as the OP but do not see it answered. I read the manual, saw the video tutorials (despite disliking video tutorials, as they can be difficult to follow), but could you tell me this:

    if i play two notes, say, C and E, simultaneously (as in, programmed thus in midi to be) with polyphonic legato on. What happens if I instantly switch to D and F? Will transition notes occur from C --> D, E --> F (which would be 'intelligent', or at least the more intuitive thing to happen), C --> F, E --> D, or even both? The 'both' feature would be rather useless, but I can't see how polyphonic legato would work otherwise.

    Thanks for the help!

    Cheers,

    MSpape
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     Polyphonc legato will connect the shortest interval steps, so C goes to D, and E goes to F.

    best

    Herb
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    M

     Hi,

    How about if a C and E played simultaneously connect to a single D? And vice versa? Sorry if it sounds like i'm paying too much attention to the tiniest details; i just like to know the rule about such details rather than being confused and worried it during composition...

    Okay, hang on, I was being daft, of course i can also test this rather than ask it. For those people who wonder about it, the answer seems to be that C+E --> D equals C+E, then C-->D. Vice versa D --> C+E seems to do D --> C, overlaying the E then on the C. I will be the first to admit that a legato from two to one note is a bit weird, though!

    Cheers,

    Mspape
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    Hi

    Just thought I would revive this because I actually have purchased VI pro and checking out the poly legato thing. 

    Now.. Because poly leg will ALWAYS connect the shortest interval steps, a DESCENDING phrase in 3rds from E-G to D-F will connect an ASCENDING transition from E to F, which proabably results in a descending 4th transition from G-D. The result sounds really strange. What have people done to avoid this? Just don't play melodies in 3rds?

    Thanks! Really digging VI pro though!