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  • Multi-out Kontakt from VE Pro?

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    Searched around but couldn't find an answer to this. How do I get the additional outputs in Kontakt to throughput to Logic when hosted in VE Pro? I want to have two choir samples in Kontakt, one using ST1 and the other using ST2 outputs in Kontakt. I want these to route to NET1/2 and NET 3/4 so that I can have them show up in Logic. I know that I can make two instances of Kontakt and do it that way. But how do I get one channel of an instance to use a different set of outputs? It seems like an instrument can only have a stereo out. I tried making an Input in VE pro and assigning "Kontakt 1 3" to the input but it doesn't see anything. 

    Thanks, -jl
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    Oh yeah I had some fun with this but someone here helped out so I will try.

    In Kontakt you must have the output button selected so you can see your mixer. On the bottome of the mixer is a config button.

    You will see that channel one is sending to plugin out #1 and plugin out #2. Arrow accross to the next channel and assign it to the next 2 outputs and so forth.

    When you close that window Kontakt will ask you to close the plug and reopen it or something like that so it can reset the outs.

    Now create a new input channel (hit the microphone icon) now for the input of that channel (down the bottom) you can magically select Kontakt 2 or 3 or whatever channels you assigned.

    All done.

    Good luck.
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    Hi,

    this is of course also covered in the VE PRO manual on pages 23 and 29 [:)], in the chapters "Multi-timbral plug-ins in VE PRO" and "VE PRO Routing".

    Best,

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    @synthetic said:

    Searched around but couldn't find an answer to this.

    Did you RTFM?

    Hint: if you search the docs for "multi-timbral" you will find it. Or search for Kontakt. 1st hit on both counts.

    Paul has done a great job making the docs better and better with each version. The latest version (1.4) has so much more content than previous versions and I encourage all users to look at it again -- you will probably learn something. If you don't have the latest docs on your desktop, you should do so now.
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    @Paul said:

    this is of course also covered in the

    I'm using the Server so page 23 doesn't apply. Connection Settings in Preferences is set to 32 audio ports per instance. Page 29 I had already set up. 

    [quote user="jeremyroberts"]Did you RTFM?

    Hint: if you search the docs for "multi-timbral" you will find it. Or search for Kontakt. 1st hit on both counts.

    Yes, I read the manual. I'm doing what it says to do on page 22. The numbering scheme isn't explained anywhere, "Kontakt 4 1 2," "Kontakt 4 1 3" etc. But none of them work. 
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    Seem to have it working. Trick is to create an input channel, set input to "Kontakt 4 1 2" and output to "NET 3/NET 4"
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    Sure it does. Why would you think that?

    1. In Kontakt, make sure your outputs are assigned. Do you know how to do this? Try assigning outputs in your host first, and get comfortable with the upside down way Kontakt does multi-out. Kontakt assumes you are a 14 year old geek.

    2. In VEPro (yes, page 23 of the latest docs) make an input channel, and assign the INPUT FROM the Kontakt output pair. The numbering scheme is not intuitive, but if you look at it for more than 3 seconds, it will be obvious. 1st number is Kontakt "4" the name of the plug. Second number is which instance of Kontakt (let's say you only have 1 instance, but if you had more, the 2nd number would be 2 or 3 etc., and the 3rd number is the stereo port.

    Kontakt 4 1 2 is the 2nd pair. Kontakt 4 1 3 is the 3rd pair. The 1st pair is on the VE Pro channel that hosts the plug by default.

    You have to first tell Kontakt to use the output pairs.

    Then make input channels in VE Pro and route it.

    Think patchbay. Signal must come from somewhere and go to somewhere else...

    I am no fan of how VE Pro numbers ports and outputs (documented on this forum), but it's not brain surgery. VE Pro is only using what the plugin maker gives them. In the case of Kontakt, NI calls the output pairs by number, although inside the plug, it is called by mono outputs. That's not VE Pro's issue. In Omnisphere, the output pairs are called by letters, yet by the time you get to VE Pro, the output pairs are again numbers. I will bet this is a flaw of the AU spec. Just look at it for a few moments and it will be clear.

    Hope this helps.

    J
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    @synthetic said:

    Seem to have it working. Trick is to create an input channel, set input to "Kontakt 4 1 2" and output to "NET 3/NET 4"

    Isn't that what it says on page 23? [;)]