I got MIR SE installed on a fairly modest computer - 8 gigs RAM, Vista 64bit, Echo Mia soundcard - and it is fantastic! The sense of the instrument existing in a real space is astounding, and the interface is completely intuitive and straightforward. This blows away all other mixing/reverb/mastering software I have ever used. It is brilliantly designed for musicians, and the sound is beautiful and instantly controllable. This is a true leap forward in technology as well as music - another huge inspiration from VSL!
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MIR SE - AMAZING!
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Gabriel - depending on the Venue you load into MIR, its RAM-demands will change. The actual size used by a Venue is determined by several variables, like the reverb time (from 0.5 to 10 seconds), or the number of individual IRs used for it (from several hundreds up to far more than thousand), the output format (stereo or surround), and so on. In addition to that, you will want to load virtual instruments, of course. :-)
This means that you will be able to host a small ensemble with a handful of instruments on a rather dry soundstage without any problems using a 8 GB machine, while you would need far more than that with a full-blown orchestra an a big, reverberant hall. There are MIR-users who equipped their machines with 48 GB RAM (or even 96) for exactly that reason.
The 12 GB we quote in our specifications is a reasonable value to use MIR without running into limits too fast.
HTH,
/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library -
I am using the large Konzerthaus, though I am doing smaller sections of a larger orchestration separately as the RAM does get used up if you use a lot of articulations. I set up a template for all instruments I wanted but with their cells empty, allowing the relative positioning of everything, and then put .fxp files into them as I freeze different sections or instruments. This is a way of using MIR on a very cheap computer (like mine). It is simply awesome sounding and totally easy to use. I am still in a state of schock as it has blown away all my other mixing/reverb strategies.
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One other thing I will say about MIR in my excitement and then I'll shut up - it really seems to complete the VSL. The sound starts with the original samples which are beautifully recorded, then is combined into a set of highly useable and astoundingly detailed articulations which accomplish the nearly impossible - capturing what orchestral players actually do - and then is completed within MIR which - though it is doing incredibly complex work "under the hood" is programmed for musicians instead of engineering experts and gives a complete environment, custom made for the VSL sounds. Anyone using VSL simply has to have MIR unless he is a great mixing engineer (though even then you probably would want it since it is such a great convolution reverb system). I love being able to load a flute and have it automatically sound near perfect in relation to every other instrument in level, positioning, reverb, EQ, everything, as if I had gone to a concert hall with perfectly placed state of the art mikes and gear and recorded a great musician flawlessly. That is what this system actually does! Truly amazing. All right I will stop gushing and get back to work...
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William would you be willing to post a short sample excerpt from some of your recent experiences with MIR SE? Even if not polished, it would be very nice to hear.
Thanks,
O
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@Animus said:
Can you load other vstis such as Kontakt in those slots? Would be a nice feature if not. VSl is only a portion of what i use.
Every VSTi that comes as 64-bit compatible DLL (or is wrapped up to it) can be used within MIR / MIR SE. They won't have the deep integration of Vienna Instruments, of course, and due to MIR's concept the use of multi-outputs isn' t supported.
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@ozoufonoun_29353 said:
William would you be willing to post a short sample excerpt from some of your recent experiences with MIR SE? Even if not polished, it would be very nice to hear.
Thanks,
O
Yes, I am doing a large scale work and have not completed it but will put up some separate sections soon. I realize you need as much RAM as you can beg, borrow or steal, but the parts I have done so far made me think - the second I heard them - I MUST USE MIR NO MATTER SACRIFICE IT DEMANDS. If I am writing from jail next time I post you will know what happened.
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If you are interested in how the various venues sound in MIR log on to my you tube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/Bachbeatty?feature=mhum There are 42 examples they are organized in groups suberthall, morzarthall, grosserhall The venue and microphone setup is given in the credits at the front and back of each example.
Regards,
Stephen W. Beatty
