MIR & Konzerthaus Organ

[aile]

Hello Dietz,

I would ask a clarification on MIR and Konzerthaus Organ. It is the first instrument not recorded at the Silent Stage. Sound equally well in other MIR acoustics, for example RoomPack3 (simulated dry organ samples?)? 

The issue will also be general: I may have a portable (from acoustic to another) VSL virtual instruments (Yes!) or other 3rd Party virtual instruments(?)  ?

To quote your words : To work properly, MIR needs to "know" a lot about the incoming signals - that's why we invested enormous amounts of time to investigate aspects like the directivity profiles of most instruments we ever sampled, for example.

Thank you very much.

[Dietz]

Hello Elia,

I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly, but if you're asking whether the Konzerthaus Organ will work properly in other MIR Venues than the Great Hall of the Konzerthaus, the answer is clearly "Yes". :-) In the Vienna Instrument player would switch off the natural release that the Organ offers, though, to avoid a strange mixture of reverb tails.

HTH,

[aile]

Apologized for my bad English.
In general, I can use MIR and the VSL symphony orchestra to write an arbitrary score and with excellent results. VSL has developed a deep integration between the MIR and its virtual instruments (Instrument Profiles,...).
Problems arise naturally when you use other instruments (3rd Party VSTi).

It is one of MIR's most decisive features to take into account its “knowledge” about an Instrument, using so-called Instrument Profiles.
When using third party VSTi’s we recommend using one of the “General Purpose” profiles in order to avoid unforeseeable sound effects.
If you are the adventurous type, try to edit an instrument by selecting one of the General Purpose profiles instead of its original data set. These were initially meant to be used during development only, but we decided to leave them in as a valid option for advanced users, and for rare instruments without a measured Frequency Directivity Profile. General Purpose profiles also are the instrument of choice when using third party VSTi’s in MIR.

"General Purpose profiles" is sufficient to restore that sense of realism to the sound? Could theoretically be used to recreate the profile to a VSL violin? So I can use it in general to obtain an excellent result or it is just a first step to support a more specific problem (perhaps MIR Pro?)?

All these questions comes from the fact that I'd like to use MIR as an open platform for integration and development of heterogeneous elements.

many thanks

[Dietz]

Elia, there's no doubt that yo will achieve the most _realistic_ results by using Vienna Instruments with Vienna MIR. But of course it is possible to get _believable_ results with other signal sources too - that's exactly what the General Purpose Profiles were made for 😊

Sorry if I'm a little bit slow, but I still don't get this question:  

@aile said:

"General Purpose profiles" is sufficient to restore that sense of realism to the sound? Could theoretically be used to recreate the profile to a VSL violin? So I can use it in general to obtain an excellent result or it is just a first step to support a more specific problem (perhaps MIR Pro?)?

If you mean that using the VSL Violin Profile on other violins is a better way to get them integrated more closely into MIR, the answer is "no". The individual Profiles are of course highly dependent on the microphone setup used for the recording of the instrument (... the recordings you find as samples inside a Vienna instrument). If your "other" violin was - for example - recorded from the right, one meter above the floor, while ours was recorded from three meters above on the left, then it is quite obvious that those profiles can't match. 😊

Kind regards,

[Sergino Futurino]

 maybe I can help here, as I am Italian and have MIR.

Sorry for the Italian!

MIR è fatto per funzionare con gli strumenti della Vienna. Se vuoi usare un violino, devi usare impulsi MIR per violino, se vuoi usare un organo devi usare gli impulsi creati per l'organo. quindi il riferimento è in questo senso: a x strumento deve corrispondere x impulso.

Detto questo ogni strumento, che sia organo o violino o piffero, lo puoi mettere in uno qualsiasi dei "luoghi" preparati per il MIR. quindi l'organo suonerà benissimo sia nel teatro, che nella chiesa, che nello studio.

E' questa la bellezza e la magia di MIR, che, ti assicuro, non ha uguali come bellezza e vicinanza alla realtà.

Ciao