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  • Sibelius 5 and MIR

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    Dear all, sorry for an other thread about Sibelius 5 and MIR,

    so far I used Sibelius vith VE and it runs great. Now I decided to install the MIR try version. Actually I can hear the choosen instruments if I use MIR allone. But my problem is, that I am not able to combine Sibelius and MIR. I watched the MIR videos and I also read a lot in our forum, but I did not found a "instruction" what to do in this case. So please, (if you still have the nerv to explain) could anyone give me advice?

    Sorry I am not very good at computers, so the best would be a "recipe", so I can follow the steps.

    Thank you so much,

    Timo 
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    MIR is not a VST like VE so you can't see it in your active devices.

    You have to link SIB5 and MIR via virtual midicable. I use LoopBe30. Once you install the virtual midicable this does show up in your active deivces as "Internal midi" 1, 2 3 etc to 30. LoopBe30 gives you 30 virtual cables (or ports) and each cable(port) has 16 midi channels (so theoretically 480 possible channels - that would be quite an orchestra!)

    So you set up your SIB playback configuration with as many midi channels as you need (16 per internal midi device) and set up your mixer so that each stave corresponds with each midi channel then you set up MIR so it accepts midi from your internal midi devices/cables and set each VI to recieve midi from the corresponding SIB stave and all should be well.

    Fiddly but it works. If you do go this route more details for each step can be given.
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    Dear Dave,

    thank you for your quick response and good explaination. So I took another important step in using MIR and Sibelius. But there is a new problem.

    I did everything as you told me, but each time if I try to play my configuration, I get the following error message from loop be 30:

    Do not connect midi out and midi in within one single application. It seems that there is a shortcut on port one.

    What can I do and what is midi in and out in this situation

    Thanks in advance for your help

    regards Timo
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    Be patient - you'll get there.

    If Mir is using your sound card then Sibelius can't. If you haven't got it install "Asio4All" Then in Sibelius playback devices audio engine options choose asio4all as the interface.

    Then in LoopBe make sure "Enable Shortcut Detection" in not ticked and that none of the active ports are muted.

    That should work.

    Almost there[:)]
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    (Thanks a lot for supporting a fellow user, David! [Y])

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    Hallo everyone,

    David, you help me a lot. Little by little the sound develops in the right way......

    actually I can connect the two programs and if I give Sibelius a note, I can hear a sound. But there seems to be something like a back coupling and overmodulation. Than it comes to a terrible noise and I am not able to stop neither the Sibelius playback nor MIR, so I have to restart the computer. I tried to solve the problem several times on my own, but i failed.. unfortunately I have no error message..

    Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge with a not even gifted beginner...

    Have a nice evening

    Timo
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    Timo,

    hmmm! Sounds like some sort of loopback thing going on very similar to a problem I recently had. In sibelius under "file", "preferences" and "input devices" make sure all of the LoopBe30 internal devices are not checked.
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     Wow,

    as you can imagine from the first word, I (or better you) solve the problem. What a sound! Thanks a lot David without you I would still sit here and ask myselfe what I did wrong. ...

    So Thank You again for this really good and quick support!

    Greetings from swizzerland

    Timo
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    Great to hear that, Timo.

    And just to make it clear once again - David is a fellow user who generously offered his support. He just happened to be always faster than me giving the proper replies, so all I could have written would have been "Yes, he's right!" ;-)

    Kind regards,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    Just giving back to the community what it's given to me over the years. That's what these forums are all about after all.

    Perhaps you need to get out of bed earlier Dietz[:P]
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    Dave

    If you can face giving a little more advice.....

    How are you rendering the audio from MIR?

    Steve
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    I use audacity - works well for me - the only thing is if you accidentaly make a windows system noise whilst your rendering it gets recorded. I'm sure I could resolve that by disabling all windows system noises but I've been too lazy to get to grips with that yet.
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    Cheers Dave