when it comes to many instruments (say > 30) / low latency (<256) / more than 2 channels (eg. 5.1) memory bus frequency counts, especially for the latter.

i just did a quick compare for kingston hyperX XMP ram (3 x 2 GB = 200 EUR, 3 x 4 GB = 800 EUR)

having 3 x 4 GB will leave space for another 3 x 4 GB if needed

christian

@cm said:

when it comes to many instruments (say > 30) / low latency (<256) / more than 2 channels (eg. 5.1) memory bus frequency counts, especially for the latter.

i just did a quick compare for kingston hyperX XMP ram (3 x 2 GB = 200 EUR, 3 x 4 GB = 800 EUR)

having 3 x 4 GB will leave space for another 3 x 4 GB if needed

christian

 Thanks once again Christian. I'm sure I can operate OK within those limits (at an extra 600 EUR I think I'll have to!)

It was very good of you to go to the trouble of comparing the costs for me - much appreciated.

Now i'll just prepare myself for the frustration of moving everything to a new machine,,, don't be surprised if I'm back then asking for technical assistance!

I've got to say though, notwithstanding the odd technical hole in my knowledge, the product is magnificent and something that only a relatively few years ago would have only been a distant dream that I would have thought would never have been attainable!

Once again many thanks,

Best regards,

John.

I ordered the computer that I described at the top of this thread and it's now arrived. I'm really pleased with it and can't wait  to get going on it.

However - I didn't foresee 2 problems which have now ground me to a halt, and I'm looking to see if anyone here can advise me on a way forward (bearing in mind I've virtually crippled myself financially buying the system in the 1st place!).

1. Main problem: My CME UF8 keyboard. No 64 bit driver available. The keyboard was superseded after I bought mine and the cheapskate company seem to be concentrating on the newer models. The problem is made worse in that I can't use my M-Audio Midisport 4x4 or my Midisport 2x2 to connect the keyboard because M-Audio haven't come up with a driver for that either (and no date set for when one will be available!) I do have an M-Audio Axiom 25 keyboard - but same problem there - no  64 bit driver!

I don't want to revert to XP 32 bit as I won't be able to access my 12Gb memory (one of the reasons for upgrading in the first place)

Anyone else had this problem and found a solution? (without the expense of buying a new controller keyboard).

Second problem - I didn't realise that Altiverb 6 wouldn't run on a 64bit system. I suppose I could upgrade to Altiverb 7 when that's out as long as it's affordable.

As ever, any helpful (but affordable) advice would be gratefully received.

Thanks,

John

1.  Check that the Midisport doesn't work before you write it off. If it doesn't then you will need to buy a new MIDI interface. Once you have one, you can connect the CME via that, or even via the MIDI input (if any) on your soundcard.
2. Altiverb will run on a 64bit OS, it's just that it won't run hosted in a 64bit sequencer. The answer is simple. J-Bridge.

DG

@DG said:

1.  Check that the Midisport doesn't work before you write it off. If it doesn't then you will need to buy a new MIDI interface. Once you have one, you can connect the CME via that, or even via the MIDI input (if any) on your soundcard.
2. Altiverb will run on a 64bit OS, it's just that it won't run hosted in a 64bit sequencer. The answer is simple. J-Bridge.

DG

Thanks for your reply DG. 

I've tried both of my midisports (2x2 & 4x4) and unfortunately neither of them are recognised, and my Delta 44 soundcard doesn't have a MIDI input.

I'm a little nervous of finding a compatible interface too. I thought one of the E-mu ones (such as the XMIDI 2x2) may be OK - especially when on the E-mu website there is a downloadable driver apparently for Windows 7 32 and 64 bit, but on looking at their support page they say the following: -

With regard to Windows 7 drivers and support for E-MU products:  We currently do not have specific Windows 7 support or a Windows 7 driver release for E-MU products at this time. Our preliminary testing shows that our Vista drivers when used with Windows 7 perform as well as they do under Windows Vista for most users. You can download and install our Windows Vista drivers from our website. We are keeping a log of known issues specific to Windows 7. We do not have an official release date, but are tracking the issues closely and will notify our users via our newsletter and website as soon as we commit to a new release. And that's in spite of the following on their download page:- ++Link to driver++ Date: 1/29/2010 Size: 3.77 MB This is the Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 32-bit and 64-bit compatible device driver for the E-MU Xmidi 1x1, Xmidi 1x1 Tab and Xmidi 2x2 products.  NOTE: This driver is only for PCs running a supported version of Windows. The E-MU Xmidi products are compatible with Mac OS X's native CoreMIDI drivers and requires no drivers from E-MU.

It's a real pity all of this - I don't know about anyone else, but my confidence in what I can trust (in terms of hardware - NOT VSL!) is severely damaged.

In the meantime I have a brand new system that I can't even test properly because 3 pieces of relatively new gear have been rendered useless.

If you know of a midi controller that definitely works, and is cheap enough to be considered a temporary solution until either CME provide an updated driver or M-Audio do the same for the Midisports, I'd be really grateful to hear of it.

Thanks for the advice about J-Bridge.

Thanks again,

John

out of curiosity i just plugged in ny old and cheap M-Audio MidiSport Uno USB-to-MIDI device on a W7 x64 system and - voilá here it is without any driver installation.

hth, christian

@cm said:

out of curiosity i just plugged in ny old and cheap M-Audio MidiSport Uno USB-to-MIDI device on a W7 x64 system and - voilá here it is without any driver installation.

hth, christian

Christian, I think the problem is a question of "how old?". AFAIK the 4x4 Midisports don't work, but the 4x4 Anniversary Midisports do. I can't test my 4x4 out because although my W7 PC should have arrived yesterday, the courier has "lost" it. When (if) it eventually arrives I'll test my even older 4x4 Midisport. [:(]

DG

 Is altiverb working in jbridge under windows 7? Some time ago, I could not get it to work with Windows 7/jbridge.

Mahlon

@cm said:

out of curiosity i just plugged in ny old and cheap M-Audio MidiSport Uno USB-to-MIDI device on a W7 x64 system and - voilá here it is without any driver installation.

hth, christian

The plot thickens! A look at the M-Audio drivers page shows no driver for Windows 7 64 bit. It does show a driver for Vista 64 bit.

Which driver did you install for the Uno Christian? 

The whole compatibility issue seems very hit and miss. Such statements as 'works on some installations' that I've read while researching this don't exactly inspire confidence.

I emailed Jesper Wilfing, a Swedish man who rewrote the CME UF8 driver for WIndows 7 (but sadly only the 32 bit version so far) to see if he'd managed to work out the same for 64 bit version and he hasn't been able to yet. He did say that it only took him an hour to do the one for 32 bit Windows 7 though.

Here's what he said, "I am very sad to say that it isn't possible to my knowledge to get it running on ny 64-bit system. As soon as I find a solution I will be sure to make a good setup package and post it on the page. Thanks anyway for letting me know about the page problem. It has now been corrected!

I think it's somewhat more sinister than laziness - I really think it's a misguided attempt to get people to buy one of their newer versions - but I wouldn't touch anything of theirs again with a bargepole! The only reason I want to keep my present UF8 is purely because it cost a lot of money and I don't want to incur that kind of cost again. If I did it certainly wouldn't be with CME. I emailed their UK importers this morning to ask for their assistance and guess what?.... No reply!

If anyone needs this particular unofficial driver, (which seems to have pleased many people) - it's available here:

http://cme.wilfing.se/

It doesn't work on my 64 bit system though.

@mistersynth said:

... shows no driver for Windows 7 64 bit. It does show a driver for Vista 64 bit.

Which driver did you install for the Uno Christian?

i think the secret is, that the uno doesn't require a (device specific) driver - it is recognized as *class compliant* USB midi device http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/manuals/060424_Uno_UG_EN01.pdf

from my experience vista64 drivers often work - watch out for notes like *requires vista 64 SP1* (some kernel components have changed from the original vista to vista with SP1) to inrease the chance the drivers will work.

hth, christian

Thanks Christian. I couldn't get hold of a Uno so after a chat with a supplier, he suggested a E-MU 1x1 as a 'class compiant' device, so I shoud receive it tomorrow. If you don't hear any howls of anguish coming from the general direction of England before the end of Friday, then you'll know it works!

Thanks for your help!

John

DG Did your new all-singing all-dancing monster workstation arrive? fingers crossed!

@mistersynth said:

DG Did your new all-singing all-dancing monster workstation arrive? fingers crossed!

 It's supposed to arrive tomorrow morning. If it doesn't, I think I'll join you with the howls of anguish. [:@]

DG

E-mu 1x1 midi tab arrived ... installed...

Anyone hear my howls of anguish at another 30 quid down the pan??!!

The 'class compliant' device is not recognised and yet after installing E-mu's own driver (dated January 2010) the system won't touch it because it reckons the best driver is already installed!

[:'(]

@mistersynth said:

E-mu 1x1 midi tab arrived ... installed...

Anyone hear my howls of anguish at another 30 quid down the pan??!!

The 'class compliant' device is not recognised and yet after installing E-mu's own driver (dated January 2010) the system won't touch it because it reckons the best driver is already installed!

[:'(]

Rats. I thought it was just the the siren of an escaped patient from Broadmoor. [:O]

I think that now VSL has started to "advertise" DAW builders, it is about time that there was a list of things, such as working MIDI interfaces, that we can all contribute to. At least then people could then have easy access to this sort of information, without trawling though millions of posts.

DG