I'm glad to hear you say that, actually, that's what I've heard. The Chamber have an obviously different presence in the mix. Do you think, by the way, that I would get a good taste of the App Strings by just getting the download upgrade (sus & stac patches only?)

And a happy new year to you, thanks! :)

you want the apass legatos they are great.

SvK

No, unfortunately...that's why I put my credit card back in my wallet that day, still disappointed about that.

Come to think of it, I had heard of an Adagio Strings library in the works but that was a long time ago.  In the end, I guess there just wasn't enough interest to justify the work.  Divisi samples with AS?  Well, we all have a wish list.  Personally, I'd like to see a boys choir in the not to distant future, but I don't want to start any more rumours[:)]

Although I am a BIG fan of VEPRO - it seems to have drawn a lot of VSL's sampling resourses away into software development/fixes, etc.  I am sure they are now in the final stages of the choir library.  I'd welcome an AP divisi library but frankly see that 12 months+ out there - if at all.

Tough time for sampling companies as we are in the 'mature' cycle of this industry - where there is a plethora of viable competition.   While this is great for the consumer - it weighs heavily on which 'projects' sampling companies choose to develop - make a 'wrong' decision there and they might go the way of gigasampler.

I agree with that about getting drawn away from the raw sampling power of the actual instrument notes recorded.  That is what has been the great strength of VSL - having an almost insanely detailed, thorough and rigorous approach to the basic task at hand -reminiscent of Werner von Braun's approach in creating the Apollo program which is still the greatest single engineering accomplishment in human history (though the Hubble ST is close).  You can have all the beautiful, convenient interface design in the world but if the basic notes are not good who cares? 

That is why it is a good idea to do more of these "alternate" samples like divisi, etc., mentioned on this thread.  The orchestra is so huge in its possibility that you could spend centuries sampling it and not exhaust it.  After all that is what composers have been doing for the last several hundred years.   Ultimately sampling is not a technical or engineering feat at all.  It is an artistic creation.

 Actually, I'd love to see VSL draw away from sampling for a while. [:)]I'd like to see them create a killer notation/sequencing DAW made for orchestral composition. Now that would be AWESOME! [<:o)]

Mahlon

Before the VSL team does anything new, I'd like to see some attention to existing issues, such as legato notes which don't sustain.

See this thread:

http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/19898/161973.aspx

I am generally very supportive of VSL. They and Spectrasonics are my 2 top companies - eager to assist users, very responsive and always generous. However, my feeling is that more time could be spent on creating extra patches and setups for existing users. Instead of suggesting workarounds for the problem mentioned above, could we please have some VSL-designed solutions?

Hello musos,

we have tried to loop the solo strings legatos, it simply didn´t sound good. Which is why we decided to keep it as it is in real life. You need to change the bow direction for the solo strings (= retrigger the note, best with a held sustain pedal).

Best,
Paul

Hi Paul,

As always, I appreciate the fast reply.

I still have a problem: 

The Chamber String sections have sus_Vib patches where you hear the bow change, but they are looped.

On the solo violin sus_Vib patch and others, you hear one bow change, but there is no loop. Surely you could loop the samples at the bow change to create sustained notes?

The legato patches are set so that non-looped notes move in legato fashion to other non-looped notes. Isn't there's a way to set the patches so that held (destination) notes are also looped at bow changes?

I have no doubt this would take lots of work and programming, but you guys ARE the best in the world, so why not go even better?  [;)]

As a long-time user of VSL (since First Edition), I'd be willing to pay an upgrade fee if extra facility such as this was introduced. I'd obviously be even happier if this kind of functionality was included in a free update.

Regards - Colin

Hi Colin,

I know that you have contacted us many many times about this. And please believe us if we say that we have tried to get a similar solution for the Solo Strings - but the results simply didn´t meet our expectations. It simply did not sound convincing, no matter what we tried.

Sorry to have no better news. And I will definitely take the effort and write this again, the next time this comes up, simply because there´s nothing we can do at this point, and the workaround is so easy to achieve.

Thanks for your understanding!

Best,

Paul

Thank YOU Paul for your response. 

Okay, even if the looping is not possible, how about some more presets/setups using existing VSL instruments and samples?

I'm sure you guys have great ideas of how to use these instruments that we may not have even thought of. Please consider sharing your knowledge and tricks......

In the meantime, I'll just carry on using my VSL libraries in every job I do, as always.  [:D]

Regards - Colin