Vienna Symphonic Library Forum
Forum Statistics

193,947 users have contributed to 42,904 threads and 257,885 posts.

In the past 24 hours, we have 5 new thread(s), 22 new post(s) and 73 new user(s).

  • Question: Sibelius & VEpro versus Sibelius & MIR

    I'm a classical composer using Sibelius on a Mac computer and VEpro on a slave computer (Windows 7, Xeon processor at 2.5 GHz, 16Gb memory). In VEpro I use 8 instances for a complete orchestral setup. That VEpro setup includes EQ en Panning for every instrument and convolution reverbs for specific instrument groups. In my scores I use quite some instruments and rely havely on divisi writing using the chamber strings (3 staves for every string group) and solo strings.

    This setup currently works well for me to create a good quality demo (MIDI-mockup) right out of Sibelius with incidental additional MIDI editing in my DAW and incidental additional mixing in my DAW). After using it for about 2 months on a daily basis, my conclussion is that it's very reliable, stable, productive and a lot of fun!!!

    Just to make the end result a bit more realistic I concider buying MIR. I read the MIR manual but can't really find out how MIR would change my way of working in Sibelius (in a positive or negative way). Some specific questions:

    1) Would using MIR reduce the amount of work or increase the amount of work during the mixing process (in relation to using VEpro)?
    2) Does MIR also work in my master slave environment as described above?
    3) Does my computer have enough horse power to run a complete symphonic orchestra (based on Special Edition PLUS instruments) ?
    4) How many instances of Vienna Instruments does MIR support? How about the max number of MIDI channels?
    5) Does Sibelius connect to MIR using a playback configuration similar to VEpro?

    Any users out there that have experience using the same setup?

    Many thanks in advance,

    Wim Dijkgraaf

  • Hi Wim!

    1) As you have far more options in MIR as opposed to other convolution reverbs, the amount of work will surely increase.

    Best,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • last edited
    last edited

    Hi Wim,

    I'm responsible for the MIR project within VSL, that's why Andi asked me to jump in with a few answers.

    @Another User said:

    Any users out there that have experience using the same setup?

    There are quite a few - but you should ask this question in the MIR-forum (... which admittedly is more a VEPro forum these days 😉 ...)

    If you want to know more about Vienna MIR in advance, feel free to download the Manual from your User Area - it's available for free.

    HTH,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thanks both Andi and Dietz for the infomative replies! It's great service that VSL delivers here in this community!!!!

    So if I understand this correctly, if I would buy version 1.1 of MIR this means:
    1) connecting my Mac master computer with my Windows slave computer through A) hardware MIDI ports or B) virtual MIDI ports over the network with additional software
    2) installing a soundcard in my Windows slave computer for MIR 1.1 to output it's audio

    If this is correct, that for me would be a show stopper for now. I really love the VEpro functionality to have software based MIDI ports, and AUDIO over LAN without the necessity to have additional audio hardware. And not to forget, because VEpro is AU based it integrates seamless with my DAW so while composing I can record real instruments and voice and through ReWire work on the score in Sibelius. All well synchronized without much audio hardware (only a simple FireWire device on my mac to occasionaly record audio).

    Additionaly, In my situation, my Windows machine (which makes a lot of noise as most windows computer do) is running all the VE software and is located in a seperate room. I control that machine through Remote Desktop on my silent iMac in front of me.

    So, I guess, because VEpro and MIR are all VSL products, is it a possiblity that in the nearby future MIR will support MIDI and AUDIO over LAN like VEpro does?

    BTW: I'm really very enthousiastic about the quality of both the VSL sound library, the VSL software AND the quality of your support!!! Many, many thanks for that because it's a pleasure to work with every day!!!

    Abraços,

    Wim

  • Hi Wim!

    1) correct
    2) correct

    Sorry, I am not sure myself, if MIDI and AUDIO over LAN will be supported by MIR in the nearby future.

    Thanks for your kind words.

    Best,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • last edited
    last edited

    Thanks for the friendly words, Wim.

    A small addition to Andi's reply:

    @Wim Dijkgraaf said:

    [...] So, I guess, because VEpro and MIR are all VSL products, is it a possiblity that in the nearby future MIR will support MIDI and AUDIO over LAN like VEpro does?[...]

    While I wouldn't say "near future", Vienna MIR Pro with exactly these features is one of our projects this year.

    Kind regards,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • ErisnoE Erisno moved this topic from Notation Programs & Vienna on
  • ErisnoE Erisno moved this topic from Finale on
  • ErisnoE Erisno moved this topic from Notation Programs & Vienna on
  • ErisnoE Erisno moved this topic from Dorico on
  • ErisnoE Erisno moved this topic from Notation Programs & Vienna on