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  • Vienna Ensemble Pro over LAN and Logic 'bounce-in-place'

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    Hi,

    I know that Vienna Ensemble Pro can run on a PC and send audio over LAN into Logic.  What I'm wondering (actually reeeeally hoping), is if it's possible to use Logic's 'bounce-in-place' feature to offline bounce that audio?

    So let's say I have a Kontakt sampler piano being triggered on the PC and sequenced in Logic.  When I use Logic's 'bounce-in-place', will it offline bounce that MIDI sequence (with no artifacts) into audio?

    Thanks!
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    @billbrownmusic_2096 said:

    Hi,

    I know that Vienna Ensemble Pro can run on a PC and send audio over LAN into Logic.  What I'm wondering (actually reeeeally hoping), is if it's possible to use Logic's 'bounce-in-place' feature to offline bounce that audio?

    So let's say I have a Kontakt sampler piano being triggered on the PC and sequenced in Logic.  When I use Logic's 'bounce-in-place', will it offline bounce that MIDI sequence (with no artifacts) into audio?

    Thanks!

     That's really 3 questions:

    1. Does Logic's Bounce-in-place work (using Kontakt) without artifacts?
    2. Does BIP work over LAN using VE Pro?
    3. Does BIP work using Kontakt hosted within VE Pro?

    The theoretical answer should be yes to all three questions, but I'm afraid that the only way you'll know for sure is to try it. Each one of those steps could trip you up, and i don't use Logic so i can't even give you my anecdotal thoughts. It does work with Cubase though, so there's every chance that it will work with Logic.

    DG
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    Yes, thats possible, in my tests without artefacts.

    BUT

    this doesn't work when you play VEpro via a multi instrument, you can only bip one instrument at a time.

    So no problem for piano  :)

    Hope, that helps
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    @kosi.me said:

    Yes, thats possible, in my tests without artefacts.

    BUT

    this doesn't work when you play VEpro via a multi instrument, you can only bip one instrument at a time.

     

    What goes wrong when you try more than one instrument?

    DG
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    you get a flat line, no sound. 

    I also checked the record muliple outs etc knob, but no results this or that way...

    you have to be on the track, where the plugin is instanciated. 
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    @kosi.me said:

    you get a flat line, no sound. 

    I also checked the record muliple outs etc knob, but no results this or that way...

    you have to be on the track, where the plugin is instanciated. 

     

     Does it work with a Multi using Kontakt hosted in Logic, rather than in VE Pro?

    Have you set the internal outputs of Kontakt to audio inputs and then routed the audio inputs to the VE Pro outputs?

    DG
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    I'm a little confused, so just for clarification;

    Let's say we've got 3 sampler instruments (for argument's sake, let's say guitar, bass, drums (GBD)) we setup on our PC, and have Logic trigerring via MIDI.  The traditional way this is setup is to open Kontakt on the PC, have your instrument assigned to three MIDI channels within a single port (Kontakt allows 4 ports with 16 channels assignable), have those triggered from Logic and capture the audio in real-time via an 'armed' audio track in Logic.

    So with this VE Pro technology, is it;

    1- A single instance of Kontakt on one VE Pro channel, with our GBD assigned their separate MIDI channels and have Logic sequence for them separately? 

    2- Or do I have to open three separate Kontakts on three separate VE Pro channels?  

    I think your reply probably answers my first query, and you're probably saying that the GBD can't all be bounced offline separately in one go.  If that's the case, it's not too great a concern for me as the speed of offline bouncing is wonderful, and I don't mind doing them separately.  Anyways, I'm guessing that future updates should fix this.
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    @billbrownmusic_2096 said:

    I'm a little confused, so just for clarification;

    Let's say we've got 3 sampler instruments (for argument's sake, let's say guitar, bass, drums (GBD)) we setup on our PC, and have Logic trigerring via MIDI.  The traditional way this is setup is to open Kontakt on the PC, have your instrument assigned to three MIDI channels within a single port (Kontakt allows 4 ports with 16 channels assignable), have those triggered from Logic and capture the audio in real-time via an 'armed' audio track in Logic.

    So with this VE Pro technology, is it;

    1- A single instance of Kontakt on one VE Pro channel, with our GBD assigned their separate MIDI channels and have Logic sequence for them separately? 

    2- Or do I have to open three separate Kontakts on three separate VE Pro channels?  

    I think your reply probably answers my first query, and you're probably saying that the GBD can't all be bounced offline separately in one go.  If that's the case, it's not too great a concern for me as the speed of offline bouncing is wonderful, and I don't mind doing them separately.  Anyways, I'm guessing that future updates should fix this.

     

    Either should work.

    The problem is that there is so much user error going on with VE Pro, that the only way for you to be sure is to try it yourself. I don't have Logic, so I can't test it. It is no problem with Cubase or Nuendo.

    DG