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    Thanx sooo much for taking care of MIDI for us Mac  users!!

    SvK
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    @brett said:

    Thanks Abel.  Missed this new feature - this of course fixed the midi issue.

    However, VEP still crashes when loading a saved project.  I've done some more testing though and only the 32-bit server crashes, not the 64-bit version and this occurs whether I'm connected using the VST2 or VST3 version of the plugin.  Nothing has to be loaded into the VEP plugin - it can be empty.  Also, the crashes to the 32-bit server only occur when 'connected' to the Cubase.  If I've disconnected (preserved) prior to saving the project then it will load without crashing. 

    Brett

    I can not seem to reproduce this here. Could you perhaps give a more exact list of actions leading up to the crash? Thanks.
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    Thanks Karel for your reply.  I'm using xp64 and cubase4 on a PC, with VEP only on my local computer.  No slaves.

    Load VEP server 32-bit.

    Load Cubase4

    Open a new Cubase project

    Instantiate a single VEP from the VST instruments rack

    'Connect' to localhost [32] (new)  - I'm not naming the preserved session which means the VEP instance is connected to the host and not preserved

    Save the project

    Close the project

    Re-open the project = crash! (exception in vienna ensemble pro.exe)

    In contrast...

    Load VEP server 32-bit.

    Load Cubase4

    Open a new Cubase project

    Instantiate a single VEP from the VST instruments rack

    'Connect' to localhost [32] (new) and either name the instance (automatically preserving it) or don't name but then preserve.

    Save the project

    Close the project

    Re-open the project = No worries.

    [edit - however, if you shutdown the VEP 32-bit server, or delete that preserved instance of VEP, after closing the cubase project, and then re-open the project, this will force VEP to load with the project and cause a crash similar to the first example above]

    (Also, the problems with cc-instensive patches like the legato LASS patches is not fixed here - I've detailed this in the LASS thread)

    Thanks Karel - Brett
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    Hi Vienna-Team,

    is it possible that there's a memory leak in the update? After updating to 4.0.4536 VE Pro crashes every time when editing a bidule instance (v. 0.9693). Then the memory of VE PRo rises rapidly until the whole application crashes.

    Reinstalling VE Pro 4.0.4416 I don't have this problem any more, then bidule works fine in VE Pro.

    Best regards,

    Peter
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    Hi, I had some crashes too after the update. When open the Cubase project I had created using the other version, it crashes immediately after open it.

     I'm using WinXp 32 and Cubase 4.
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    VEPro 32/64 4536 cannot start the audio engine in the standalone mode (including the built-in audio).

    PPC G5 2.3 Dual, OS 10.5.8 and MacBook, OS 10.6.1

    VE3 works fine standalone on both platforms.
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    VE Pro server crashes as soon as I try to do anything over IAC. Are you interested in crash logs?
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    @michkhol said:

    VEPro 32/64 4536 cannot start the audio engine in the standalone mode (including the built-in audio).

    PPC G5 2.3 Dual, OS 10.5.8 and MacBook, OS 10.6.1

    VE3 works fine standalone on both platforms.

    Try setting a specific samplerate and blocksize in the audio preferences instead of using the defaults.
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    @Karel said:

     Try setting a specific samplerate and blocksize in the audio preferences instead of using the defaults.

    That worked, thanks!
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    @brett said:

    Thanks Karel for your reply.  I'm using xp64 and cubase4 on a PC, with VEP only on my local computer.  No slaves.

    Load VEP server 32-bit.

    Load Cubase4

    Open a new Cubase project

    Instantiate a single VEP from the VST instruments rack

    'Connect' to localhost [32] (new)  - I'm not naming the preserved session which means the VEP instance is connected to the host and not preserved

    Save the project

    Close the project

    Re-open the project = crash! (exception in vienna ensemble pro.exe)

    In contrast...

    Load VEP server 32-bit.

    Load Cubase4

    Open a new Cubase project

    Instantiate a single VEP from the VST instruments rack

    'Connect' to localhost [32] (new) and either name the instance (automatically preserving it) or don't name but then preserve.

    Save the project

    Close the project

    Re-open the project = No worries.

    [edit - however, if you shutdown the VEP 32-bit server, or delete that preserved instance of VEP after closing the cubase project, and then re-open the project, this will force VEP to load with the project and cause a crash similar to the first example above]

    (Also, the problems with cc-instensive patches like the legato LASS patches is not fixed here - I've detailed this in the LASS thread)

    Thanks Karel - Brett

    Karel - Did you manage to test the above repro?  It happens everytime here.  If I ever load up my current project which had been saved in a disconnected (non preserved) mode, the 32-bit version of the server crashes on load while the 64-bit is fine.  However if I had previously saved the project with all instances preserved, then loading the project (after loading the metaframe files) there is no crash.  This is a 'once a day' problem - I just have to remember disconnect, and to save the meta files for both 64 and 32-bit server versions at the end of the day otherwise my first load the mext morning results in a crash

    XP64 with Cubase 4 here - Thanks

    Brett
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    Yes, I could not reproduce this. I assume you're using Cubase 4.2 or newer when using the VST3 plugin? Cheers.
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    @Karel said:

    Yes, I could not reproduce this. I assume you're using Cubase 4.2 or newer when using the VST3 plugin? Cheers.

    yes, I'm using the latest release of Cubase 4 and the crash occurs with both the VST2 and VST3 version of the plugin.  I don't know what's unique to my system.  I've tried removing VST plugins from the scan path, and every combination of preference settings.  All I know is that if Cubase tries to load up VEP in the 32-bit server it crashes the server.  The only way I can get it to work is to load the meta file (if I remember to save it) and then connect manually after the cubase project has loaded.

    This behaviour was not evident in the previous build.  Can you offer me any troubleshooting suggestions?  Any ideas to try?

    Brett
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    It's happening here with C5.1 (32bit DAW) as well (VEP 64bit Slave). If I load a previously saved project with a preserved instance it loads all samples and when it's done, VE just goes away for good.

    So basically the first fix mentioned in your changelog is causing this or at leat seems to be the reason. Since it didn't automatically load in VEP's previous build ( we had to click Load Plugin Data manually) it never occured there.

    No problems if I load an .mframe or .viframe first.
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    @MaD, it sounds similar to my difficulties.  I'm on 32-bit Cubase 4, XP64 but for me it's only the VEP 32-bit server that crashes, VEP 64-bit is fine.  I wonder if it's an XP64 OS thing?  I'll swap to W7 in time but for now all I know is that the crashes aren't evident in the previous VEP build with my combination of OS and DAW.

    Brett
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    Brett (others) - How is this latest build working for you now?   I have the original working solid (master and slaves all running x64) - a little afraid to update fearing any negative change.  Like the new 'features' but not at the cost of stability.

    Thanks for your reply.

    Rob
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    Yup, this is exactly what's happening here too. It will crash after loading when connecting to the server or the host. Rolled back to the first version and all is good.
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    I have great respect for the team at VSL, and for VEP which is a wonderful product and a welcome replacement for FXT.  However, for those of us experiencing problems with the latest build on XP64 I think we're stuck with it.  Paul correctly pointed out in this thread http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/22729.aspx?PageIndex=3 that XP64 is an unsupported product, disappointing as this may be.  Something has broken between builds for some of us but that's unlikely to be addressed.  Switching to W7 when it is released (23rd Oct I believe here in Australia) is the only way I'll know if the VEP crashes are OS related, but porting over to a new OS is no small task for any of us.  There was no way I was going to Vista.

    Brett
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    Brett, I'm working on XP64 and am getting no crashes at all. If you like you can give me a repro to do, and then if I don't get a crash, we can see what the differences between our systems are.

    DG
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    Thanks DG, that would be great.  My repro is about 9 posts up from here [:)]

    it's only the VEP32 server that crashes upon loading.  I can load up a metaframe and connect manually OK, but anything that forces plugins to load within VEP32 while loading a Cubase project causes the VEP32 server to crash.  VEP64 is fine though.  (I'm in 32-bit Cubase 4 latest, XP64, VEP on host machine).  I also still have problems with the LASS legato patches and you can follow my tests in the LASS thread if you wish.  For now not preserving my VEP instances is my workaround there unfortunately)

    Brett
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    I'm not on XP64. Have been using Vista64 but am now running Win7x64... and got those problems. It's not an XP64 thing. Must be something else entirely. Oh and obviously I've only used the 64bit server.