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  • [VE PRO] Crash when loading a VE Pro project in Cubase4

    M
    M

    This is what I already wrote earlier in a thread:

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    Thanks for this new update, guys!


    However, VE Pro crashed when I do the following:

    1. VE Pro and Cubase are running and connected to each other, in VE Pro a VI is loaded.

    2. I save and close Cubase (decouple mode off), close VE Pro completely.

    3. Restart VE Pro Server (32-bit), restart Cubase and load that saved project file.

    4. Now, Cubase tries to connect to VE Pro and VE Pro crashes.

    Important: This does not occur when the last instance of VE Pro is still running! And I don't know if it is a new problem, which came with the update because I have not tried that before...

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    Any workarounds or solutions?
  • D
    D

    This is a well known bug with Vienna Ensemble, and has been around for years. Steinberg needs to fix it, but they haven't so far. FWIW I think that this doesn't happen with Cubase 5, but for C4 and Nuendo users that is no consolation.

    DG
  • M
    M

    What a shame! I haven't heard of this problem and would have thought twice before buying VE Pro under this circumstances.

    But if there is a solution please let me know!

    Best,

    Justus
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    D
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    @michael_12374 said:

    What a shame! I haven't heard of this problem and would have thought twice before buying VE Pro under this circumstances.

    But if there is a solution please let me know!

    Best,

    Justus

     

    The solution is easy. Don't close Cubase and then re-open it.

    DG
  • M
    M

    And saving and loading the VEPRO instance seperately from Cubase should do it as well.
  • B
    B

    DG, I have the same problem as michael_12374 and have posted already here - http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/23110.aspx

    However, this problem wasn't in the first build.  Could you explain your work around, because it crashes here on the first cubase load (ie I don't have to closing and re-opening Cubase).  Besides, if this happens everytime you load Cubase it defeats the purpose of Preserve.  Here is my comment and repro from the earlier thread...

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    However, VEP still crashes when loading a saved project.  I've done some more testing though and only the 32-bit server crashes, not the 64-bit version and this occurs whether I'm connected using the VST2 or VST3 version of the plugin.  Nothing has to be loaded into the VEP plugin - it can be empty.  Also, the crashes to the 32-bit server only occur when 'connected' to the Cubase.  If I've disconnected (preserved) prior to saving the project then it will load without crashing. 

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    AND

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    Thanks Karel for your reply.  I'm using xp64 and cubase4 on a PC, with VEP only on my local computer.  No slaves.

    Load VEP server 32-bit.

    Load Cubase4

    Open a new Cubase project

    Instantiate a single VEP from the VST instruments rack

    'Connect' to localhost [32] (new)  - I'm not naming the preserved session which means the VEP instance is connected to the host and not preserved

    Save the project

    Close the project

    Re-open the project = crash! (exception in vienna ensemble pro.exe)

    In contrast...

    Load VEP server 32-bit.

    Load Cubase4

    Open a new Cubase project

    Instantiate a single VEP from the VST instruments rack

    'Connect' to localhost [32] (new) and either name the instance (automatically preserving it) or don't name but then preserve.

    Save the project

    Close the project

    Re-open the project = No worries.

    [edit - however, if you shutdown the VEP 32-bit server, or delete that preserved instance of VEP, after closing the cubase project, and then re-open the project, this will force VEP to load with the project and cause a crash similar to the first example above]

    (Also, the problems with cc-instensive patches like the legato LASS patches is not fixed here - I've detailed this in the LASS thread)

    Thanks Karel - Brett

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  • D
    D

    I don't get any crashes when closing and opening a project. It's only when closing and opening Nuendo. The crash has nothing to do with VE Pro, as it is caused by the vsldaemon.

    DG
  • M
    M

    OK, I did a little bit of testing and these are the results:

    - 64-bit version of VEPRO server works (as already mentioned)

    - 32-bit version only works with preserved instances and only when they are named exactly as they were in your Cubase project. Alternatively you can save a metaframe for each Cubase project.

    - It's even possible to open an empty instance (named correctly, s.a.) and choose "Load plugin data" which will load all the VE PRO data Cubase has saved with the project.