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  •  You save a metaframe for each server.

    I haven't tried loading both servers automatically on boot up.

    DG


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    @plowman said:

    I haven't gotten to metaframes or automatic loads. But if we were to run both 32-bit and 64-bit for the sake of more VE's, I wonder how metaframes would interpret that. Is information distinguishing the two platforms embedded in a metaframe? Could we automatically load both servers on power-up? Otherwise, we're talking a manual load for one or the other before we could launch a Logic file accessing both bit sizes. 

    You can set the 'open with' parameter in the info pane of the metaframe file to distinguish which app gets loaded with a specific metaframe file.  However this doesn't work quite the way I'd expect it to.  If you set the 64-bit one to use VE Pro Server (64-bit) and the 32-bit one to use VE Pro Server, then when you double click one then it opens with the right version.  When you double click the other one, then it just doesn't open. 

    However, if you select them both and  then right-click and select open then they both open their respective apps.  So, this seems a bit strange but there is one way to make that work.


  • Piece of crap license control center can't find my dongle when I place VE metaframe files as login items.


  • "However, if you select them both and then right-click and select open then they both open their respective apps."

    Yep. Confirmed. Either / or, or both at once, but never one after another. Oh, what a weekend it's been. 

    Soon I hope to discover what Login Items does with this curious fact. If I put in both the 64-bit and 32-bit metaframes, I'd think that they would load sequentially, which is to say, the second wouldn't load. We'll see. 


  • If you can figure out how to get the license to recognize just after boot let me know what you did.


  • Identical result. Syncrosoft kicks out the error message. If only one server (32 or 64) metaframe is in Login Items, that file loads. If two metaframes are in Login (both 32 and 64), neither item loads. In one attempt, both servers were in the Activity Monitor, but neither could be used. 

    I can also verify that the latest eLicenser download doesn't change the result. 

    That dual selection, manual "Open" was a good call. Now, ironically, we can't put EITHER of the metaframes in Login, and both must be manually, simultaneously launched. Not going to happen here. I must be content with the 64-bit server, take the eight instances it gives me, and re-think options.  

    VE PRO is amazing software, vanquishing soundcards and mixers and wires and worries. We only dreamed of this power a few years ago. Threads like this discuss the one element that is least fantastic, the local hosting limits. I know people worked extraordinarily hard to create this tool.


  • Well, it is always possible to write a script that would run them one after another and run the script at the login. Just a thought...


  • One after another doesn't work normally, why would this work in a script?

    Edit:  Correction ... it does work if you open with app explicitly.  Opening by double clicking the mframe file does not work (even when the file is associated with the appropriate app.


  • dbudde, are you using Automator? I am curious to know how you are telling it to select the application once it is launched and File / Open from within that application. The closest I can get to opening the metaframe within the application is "Watch me do," and that has been tricky because the desktop topography changes. 

    Perhaps you are using AppleScript. 


  • I don't have a working script yet.  But I can make it work manually in the finder by double clicking the first mframe file.  Then select the second mframe file and right click and slect 'open with' and select the appropriate app.  For whatever reason 'open' or double click doesn't work for the second file.

    I tried to get these same commands to work in Automator, but it won't work.  I also tried with various amounts of delay between opening the first and second file.  Nothing works when trying to script this.  There must be a bug somewhere in the app association mechanism either in VE Pro or in OS X.  I don't know.


  • Boy, have we been traveling parallel universes. In Automator, I was throwing every command I could find at this, including Pause and Hide Applications. I brought it to the point where the mouse would click the second VE instance (the server window after it was launched, to set up a File / Open menu). Onscreen it looked right, but I still got an error. 

    In a bug-free world, we'd just drag both metaframes into Login Items and go make music. 


  • My apologies for interrupting the flow of consciousnes but - Back to re-visiting the original topic of this thread:

    Does VE Pro only recognize 8 instances in localhost mode (on the same machine as the DAW host software) or only 8 instances total (on localhost and x number of slaves)?

    Jack


  • I believe the answer is eight instances per server.


  • That's my assumption too. If it was limited to eight instances per network, this thread would be about twenty pages by now....


  • Thanks gentlemen.

    I can live with that. Sorry that it's a limitation for your work flows.

    .


  • The current limit is 8 instances per server. We are looking at raising this limit in an update.


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    @MS said:

    The current limit is 8 instances per server. We are looking at raising this limit in an update.

    Thanks Martin! I think you will make many people very happy if you change this [:D]

    Best regards,

    Peter


  • Just joining the fray now... testing out the demo version before I jump headlong into redoing a 500+ track template. I have tried the file-association trick in the past with other apps and never had success. I have however had success in the past with AppleScript. You can formulate the command to open a specific file with a specific app. This is not so straight forward with VE Pro however, as it's putting up a fight. I will report back with any findings.

  • FANTASTIC!!!!


  • I gave up yesterday. But I was in Automator.  I wouldn't take too much time with it, though, because it's the kind of thing that can be handled in an update. 

    All we really need is a fix where the "Open With" setting works. Presently, if you double-click on a second metaframe file that is set to "Open With" the 32-bit server, nothing happens if the 64-bit is already running. And vice versa -- if the 32-bit is running and you double click on a metaframe set to open the 64-bit server, nothing happens. 

    VSL, could you acknowledge that, and will a fix be coming? Thanks. 

    Once the bug is fixed, we should be able to drag the two metaframe files into Login Items and load on start-up without any scripts.