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    @BloodyJoe said:

    No it won't be loaded as it was saved. In my example the Kore2VST is missing after reloading the cubase project. I first have to go in the VEPro instance and click on that arrow to select "Load plugin data". And no it was not preserved, not by me.

     

     I can't duplicate your repro properly, because i don't have Kore and I don't have any slaves. [:(]

    However, using Local host and Kontakt everything works as expected and is connected on opening the project, so I think it must either be something about your system, or something about Kore that causes this problem for you.

    DG


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    @BloodyJoe said:

    No it won't be loaded as it was saved. In my example the Kore2VST is missing after reloading the cubase project. I first have to go in the VEPro instance and click on that arrow to select "Load plugin data". And no it was not preserved, not by me.

     

     I can't duplicate your repro properly, because i don't have Kore and I don't have any slaves.

    However, using Local host and Kontakt everything works as expected and is connected on opening the project, so I think it must either be something about your system, or something about Kore that causes this problem for you.

    DG

    Ok found something out. My problem only occours when I choose the VEPro plugin with the mark at the side. When i choose that second VEPro VST below, everything works fine so far. Here is a screenshot (the one with the problem is the marked blue):

    Screenshot is taken from cubase when choosing a plugin for an instrument track. Anybody has an idea?


  • Ahah. That's a VST3 plugin. The way you're working you probably don't need to use the VST 3 version, as you won't miss any of the extra features.

    DG


  • it happens here as well, been using the Vst3 version too.

    Whenever i load up a cubase project, nothing is loaded in VEPRO (well the default template is loaded) and i get a arrow going on for about a minute, but furthermore...the arrow dissapears after a little while, so if im not paying attention or step away from the computer while its loading, nothing gets loaded up with the cubase project, so now i cant even launch a project and go do something else, i have to sit there and press these arrows? If i dont, then i have to reload the cubase project and hit the arrows.

    I dont get it...keeping the contents loaded\preserved only really makes sense if you never ever adjust anything inside vepro?

    Id like to keep the same template open when possible, but...theres a big chance i will adjust some paramter in one or more of the VSTI`s...and how will i know later..if i did or not, i have to take notes i guess (!)..of which project uses the default template settings or not?

    Or always reload the plugin data, so im sure everything plays back correctly? ( by pushing the arrow button every time?)

    OR make a habit of never ever adjusting anything in any vst instrument, lol...which doesnt seem very practical..

    Hm, maybe im missing somethin ( i usually am) but that seems rather...unpractical.?

    But anyway i love VEPRO tho...i really do, i guess there are some adjustements that has to be made from my side for it to work the way it was intended :D


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    @Another User said:

    I dont get it...keeping the contents loaded\preserved only really makes sense if you never ever adjust anything inside vepro?

    Id like to keep the same template open when possible, but...theres a big chance i will adjust some paramter in one or more of the VSTI`s...and how will i know later..if i did or not, i have to take notes i guess (!)..of which project uses the default template settings or not?

    Or always reload the plugin data, so im sure everything plays back correctly? ( by pushing the arrow button every time?)

    OR make a habit of never ever adjusting anything in any vst instrument, lol...which doesnt seem very practical..

    Hm, maybe im missing somethin ( i usually am) but that seems rather...unpractical.?

     

    The Preserve feature is one that has been requested for years by VSL users. Already I am loving it. I do exactly as you say; never adjust anything in the template. I don't need to. It works just the way I want it to. If I want to load extra stuff, I'll do that on a project by project basis, but the generally the orchestra is the orchestra, in my template. [:D]

    DG


  • Well, i dont...i adjust release times for individual articulations, crossfades, cellcrossfades, etc etc, and not to mention kontakt and stuff like Omnisphere and more sound design based VSTI`s. NO chance the template wont be touched, so i guess its best to divide up the VEPRO instances in a way that makes it as easy as possible, so atleast not all of them needs to be reloaded.

    BUT still, unless you make a habit of actualy writing down any deviation from the master template, how will you know later...if you made any changes or not ? You wont remember the details for every cue\song forever, ...so there potential for alot of weirdness and messy playback issues here. 

    BUT i agree its a great feature, reminds me of the days of hardware samplers, and the conveniance of having stuff loaded up all day.

    And in any event, its a feature, but one doesnt have to use it offcourse.

    In the case of VEPRO not loading when opening up a cubase project, it might be worth mentioning that im still on Cubase 4.5 , on a vista 64 machine. I have to try the VST2 version as well..but i was under the impression VST2 cannot support multiple midiports, so that doesnt really work anyway.


  • I already mailed the issue to the vsl support and got a ticket from Martin. Let's see if he/they can track down if that is a bug or if my system is just messed up. I'm also using C4.52 and that error seems only to occure with the VST3 plugin. It is neccesary because I will change up m workflow back to the cubase VSTRack and multitimb. And I like VST3!

  • Please post back when it is sorted out, and let us know what the solution was.

    DG


  • Regarding this "load data" disappearing, I have changed the behavior now, so it simply stops blinking after 15 seconds. Will come with the next update.


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    @BloodyJoe said:

    I already mailed the issue to the vsl support and got a ticket from Martin. Let's see if he/they can track down if that is a bug or if my system is just messed up. I'm also using C4.52 and that error seems only to occure with the VST3 plugin. It is neccesary because I will change up m workflow back to the cubase VSTRack and multitimb. And I like VST3!

    I cannot reproduce this issue with either VST2 or VST3 plugins, using Cubase 5.1. Since both you (BloodyJoe) and Pzy-Clone seem to be on Cubase 4.5.X, looks like it is related to this system. Are you planning to upgrade?


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    @Another User said:

    3. I'm using VEPro with cubase4. When I reload a project with some VST plugin VEPro server interfaces, the VEPro instances are not set up properly. I additionally need to click at that down arrow and then click on "Load plugin data" on every instance. Is that meant to be so? Is it possible to set that to automatic connect? I don't want to click every VEPro instance everytime I reload a big project.
    I've fixed this for next release, so newly loaded preserved instances will load plugin data automatically (if the instance already exists the load button will appear).