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  • Basic understanding of the send system in VE3.

    Hi all.

    I am a long time user of VSL instruments (some of you may remember me from a while ago...:-)   )   but I have never used the VE, either version 2 or 3.

    I am now taking the plunge and I have spent 2 days getting to grips with every angle of the Vienna Suite, the VE3 interface, best usages for me and the way to set it up for optimum performance in my home studio.

    I am starting to understand a great deal more than i ever did - which is good as we are due to be running some classes for first time users in London and Birmingham, but there is one thing I am just missing - maybe i am being stupid?

    I am a logic certified trainer and long time music technologist, so i am very familiar with sends and returns, but the send on the VE3 interface doesn't have outputs that i expect.

    Normally the master bus (maybe a sort of auxilliary?) would be fed by the send, and in the send area, you would choose the bus you want to send the audio signal on - so rather than seeing HW1 / HW2 etc, I would send to Master bus 1, or make a new bus and choose that, but the only options i see in the send area are Hardware outputs - not what i want at all....

    I know that I can control reverb by simply using the wet dry knobs in the V-Suite reverb but I want to control the amount of signal sent to the bus - or are the bus objects only for using busses as groups?

    I must be misunderstanding, but I can't see a tutorial that deals with the setup of sends and returns in VE3. I thought I'd watched every tutorial and read the great stuff previously released by Beat K. but I can't see this anyway.

    Can someone explain it to me, and have i missed a tutorial that shows it somewhere?

    Best

    David Tobin

    Logic Certified Trainer | Sibelius National Trainer 


  • I would like to see this too. I'm working with VE and I waste a lot of time experimenting with the sends to get a good mix. I'd like to see a primer on this topic or some basic explanations for how sends work.

    Marko


  • Hello [;)]

    Open a Bus within VE beside the existing Instruments and the master bus. Insert there a Convolution Reverb.

    How to do this?

    1. Click on "Insert a Bus" > it opens "BUS1". Switch the output to the masterbus as well (as you have don it with all the instruments)

    2. Insert a Convolution Instance in this BUS1 by clicking "Add Effect" (Important: Convolution Reverb = 100% wet 0% Dry).

    3. Select your wanted Instrument(s) within VE (VI 1, 2, 3, 4, ...) and click on "Add Send" and select then "BUS > BUS1"

        It apears  a bar-potentiometer for choosing the amount of the signal which should be send to the Reverb within BUS1..

    Good luck

    Best

    Beat Kaufmann


    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/
  • Actually it makes me smile to see this...

    So basically it works exactly the same way as every other send system, it's just that I hadn't created a bus object!
    Now it all makes sense.

    Thanks again Beat!


  • Thanks Beat. That's very helpful.

    Thank you David for bringing this up.

    Marko


  • [:)]


    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/