@jaysplace101_29469 said:

Any updates on this?   Waiting patiently!

We have a first great demo by Jay Bacal which I will set online tomorrow.

And if everything works smooth with replication we could start shipping in ca. 2 weeks.

best

Herb

Let us know when the demo is up.  Can't wait to hear it.

j

Demo is up, Etude in C# by Alexander Skrjabin.

http://vsl.co.at/de/67/702/704/414.htm

Bravo Jay! [Y] 

Great demo, great instrument !![Y]

Sounds great!!!, I agree.

Sorry if I missed that:

Will Imperial load easily in Ensemble PRO/(3) on a slave PC (64bit) and stream over ethernet to my G5 like the other Instruments?

Best Oliver

that's one of the ideas ;-) Vienna Imperial is not like the usual Vienna Instruments Libraries, but working as plugin within VE PRO

christian

Wow Jay! It's beyond me how someone who doesn't play the piano is able to give so much realism to a performance. I think you must of been a pianist in a former life.... And of course your great musicality gave the Vienna Imperial what it needed: a nice range of dynamics with all the emotion around it.

Really sounds great.  Sounds like the real thing.  I'll need to hear a demo with the other "perspectives" to seal the deal for me as that's what I would be using most often.  This demo sounds like the "distant" setting, correct?  If you could post the same Etude with the "close" and "player" perspective, that would help a lot.  

Thanks,

j

Amazing to me:  this piano (the etude) sounds NOTHING like the first demo you posted earlier in the thread.  Is it just the different perspective that's making it sound different?  

 Right, it's the distant mike position.

Jay has sent me now also a close mike rendering, I'll add this version to the Download Tutorial.

best

Herb

Great, looking forward to hearing that version.

@jaysplace101_29469 said:

Amazing to me:  this piano (the etude) sounds NOTHING like the first demo you posted earlier in the thread.  Is it just the different perspective that's making it sound different?  

Right, the three different mike setups offer three different piano sounds each with an unique charcteristic.

And of course also the different reverbs offer a different sound.

best

Herb

 Thanks Guy.   I have loved, played and studied the piano off and on my whole life.  I have even played this Scriabin piece on a real piano in real time for my very forgiving wife and cats.  But alas my pianistic skills is the real world remain rather meager.   This virtual performance owes a debt to one of my favorite pianists of all time-- Vladimir Horowitz.   I tried to capture some of his style, his wonderful sense of rhythmic freedom, his sensitivity to the balancing of voices and his amazing variety of tonal colors.   Of course there is no substitute for the real genius of Horowitz.   But I enjoyed trying to get as close as I could.

Herb,  I don't know if it would be possible to make the close-microphone version a separate link or button.  This might make it easier for people to find.  Just a thought.

Finally, I want to say that this new Vienna Imperial Piano is an amazing instrument and a quantum leap improvement over VSL's previously excellent piano sampling projects.   Definitely worth serious consideration!

Best,

Jay

Jay, superb work.  You have a wonderful sense of this piece.  I've played it myself and I'm very fond of your interpretation here.  Excellent job.

Okay, now we're REALLY talking!  The close miked rendering sounds amazing to me.... much more suitable for the kind of work I do.  Wow.  You should definitely provide a separate "open" button for this rendering.  I wasn't thoroughly impressed until I heard this.

Wonderful!  Great job Jay, and of course, great job VSL!  This is really stunning so far.  Look forward to more demos.

Herb, the closed miked version is clipping for some reason.  There is distortion in several spots.  Not sure if someone can verify that they are experiencing the same thing.  Perhaps it happened during the rendering.

O

i´m afraid it´s too late now, since i guess the boesendorfer ceus is no longer standing in the silent hall with all those microphones set up. if i´m wrong about that, please consider my thoughts.

i would have found it VERY interesting to listen to a live performance on this wonderful grand (i had the pleasure to work with it on a film project) classically recorded to tape via the microphones you used when sampling, and then have the midi data transferred from ceus to a pc or mac and then listen to the same performance played back with vienna imperial. this would give a very exact impression on how realistic vienna imperial reacts to live playing. 

it is very hard to judge a sampled piano with just demos alone. demos sound good, that´s what they are made for. the crucial part of sampled pianos is how they react to your playing - and thus how they interact with your playing, for you don´t only play with your fingers, but also with your ears. i currently use garritan steinway (master keyboard is a yamaha yus-5 piano), and the sound is beautiful, but it does not do what i feel it should do when i play. this could be an issue of velocity curves, and the importance of this issue might be reduced with the mere number of sampled velocities. 

so even if boesendorfer ceus has already been wrapped and delivered home, it still might be interesting to compare a live performance to a vienna imperial-playback using the midi data created with ceus. 

@clemenshaas said:

it still might be interesting to compare a live performance to a vienna imperial-playback using the midi data created with ceus. 

we can arrange that, just send us the midi file created during the ceus session - i'll eat my hat if it doesn't sound exactly the same (depending on microphone position of course)

christian