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  • Hi

    Me too having problem with Altiverb in Logic 8.0.2

    Not JUST altiverb, VS1.1 make Omnisphere unusable too...

    My system was fine until I install VS1.1

    Install VS.1.1, Load template song, An error message said something about  "could not load a plug-in" - Then I found Altiverb and Omnisphere failed to load.

    I am going to reverse to 1.0.x

    Please fix ASAP!

    Sonny


  • Update: I reverse to old VS (ViennaSuite-OSX-1.0-r1056)

    My system indeed working fine again... So something definitely wrong with VS1.1 (At least under Logic 8.0.2 and Altiverb 6 and Omnisphere)

    Thanks

    Sonny


  • Vienna Suite 1.1 needs a bit more ram than before. I have expected this. I am using Omnisphere on my macbook with ext. usb drive and tested the same with loading proceedure with 2GB RAM and after 4 GB RAM. The point is that you need more than 2 GB RAM in your computer (recommended 4GB minimum) to run Omnisphere 1.04 and Suite 1.1 without any problems by using more than 12 tracks with omnisphere at the same time with each inputting one Suite Reverb. My MacPro-System is working great and it needs with the same template 10 percent of the first core-bank from the 8-core system; the other banks are activated lower than 1 %.

    Believe, after Snow Leopard all your core- and ram-problems will be solved, if you are using a Quad or 8-core system.

    Tip: I don't like Altiverb(it is ported like Adobe products to Mac), so I changed to Arts Acoustic Reverb. Try it; may it is an alternative solution for your problem.

    Nico.


  • I use omnisphere on a seperate machine. My VSL machines are exclusive for vienna libraries and I run vienna suite through VE3. Each VSL machine is a phenom 2 quad 940, with 8GB of ram. Therefore they are quite comfortable I think. I don't see why the convolution reverb is not working just like its other fellows.


  • Thanks to your quick reports here in the forum, we have identified an issue which could cause conflicts with PSP Xenon, AudioEase Altiverb and Spectrasonics AU's. There is now a new build for OSX (r1309) of Vienna Suite v1.1 available for download on the user pages, which fixes this incompatibility problem.

    http://vsl.co.at/en/68/428/425/213.htm

    Sorry if this caused you any inconvenience.


  • Brilliant update on the VS plugs - especially the Dietz presets were welcomed - in more than one case - I found myself giggling at the EQ settings and SOUND resulting.  Really nice stuff Dietz.

    The verb is nice but I would still MISS AV6 with Todd AO on the strings.   Nothing makes VSL strings sound richer.  I would also miss the varying depths offered in AV.  For now I will probably still use AV on my stems and throw this new verb over the whole mix - we'll experiment for sure.  I may not even do this as I found the Acoustica EMT and Lex 300 excellent choices for this 'master verb' use.

    IR's/verbs are kinda like pianos and brain cells - you can never have too many.  Very much appreciated VSL.


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    @sasha said:

    What are some of the best IR libraries that you could recommend to buy and use within VS reverb?

    There will be dedicated, exclusive libraries for the VSL Convolution Reverb, not just by ourselves, but also by selected third-party developers, like Numerical Sound or Inspired Acoustics. Details tba. soon! 😊


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @sasha said:

    What are some of the best IR libraries that you could recommend to buy and use within VS reverb?

    There will be dedicated, exclusive libraries for the VSL Convolution Reverb, not just by ourselves, but also by selected third-party developers, like Numerical Sound or Inspired Acoustics. Details tba. soon! 😊

    yae!

    Will those be free of charge for the suite owner? Or will this be a different product/package payware?

    It's good news either way.


  • Third-party collections will be seperate download-products. There's no decision taken (or at least none I know of) regarding our own IRs.


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • So did the updated version solve all of the conflict problems?  I am looking to hear from the people who had issues with other plug-ins etc.  Are you still having issues or is it solved?

    Maestro2be


  • No problem with Altiverb here..

    Colin


  • I'm sure you already know my feelings about the VS reverb  being Intel mac only, but after reading this thread and the glowing reviews and cant help but feel like a little kid....I WANT MY REVERB, I WANT MY REVERB! [:'(]

    But in all seriousness, I really hope you end up coding this for PPC. I'm sure there are many other users out there like me and would agree that there is a market/use for this reverb on a PPC mac, and if you are serious about bring in 3rd party IR developers, I'm sure they would appreciate having more potential customers to sell their products to! Thanks for your consideration. 


  •  Well, i know i would pay good money for a larger set of VSL impulses in this reverb, if they are on the same level as the included Vsl ones.

    But maybe that is taking too much focus from MIR, but you might do some good biznizz releasing more impulses to the Suite as well, especially since the price of the suite is much lower than mir, and will probably have a larger number of users..?

    Anyway. please do... optional extra depths for the already included impulses ...would be wicked.


  • Maybe I'm being thick here - but does anyone with Altiverb know if you can use the Todd AO IR in VS1.1?  Sounds like if you could this would be a great downloadable IR to get hold of....

    Tim


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    @herb said:

    'm very happy to announce our Vienna Suite 1.1 release.

    This version includes the new Convolution reverb plugin and hundreds of new Preset files.

    You can download this new version here:

    ... Late but nevertheless and still...

    Thank you!

    Danke!

    Merci beaucoup!

    Muchas gracias!

    Muito obrigado!

    Dank u wel!

    Sincerely

    Beat Kaufmann


    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/
  • Re: VS Convolution Reverb.

    ....

    I have no plans to ditch my PPC for a long time. IMHO we are entering a new age (both economically and psychologically, perhaps you could say spiritually) where exponential growth will/ should not be so much expected. Instead of customers being forced to update everything (soft and hardware) all the time just to keep flying 'straight and level' I predict developers being forced by customers (like me) to not dictate such fast change anymore.

    ...

    My point is that my DAW projects themselves are not getting any bigger - my mac is adequate (ah blasphemy!!!) and for larger projects (2+ instances of VE along with other plugs and VI's) I can work around its limitations of speed and memory very easily. For me absolute 'overnight' working speed is not an issue, I generally set my own deadlines or have comfortable ones. I understand quality needs performance but is my G5 PPC d1.8 (4GB) incapable of running this reverb?

    ...

    If the issue for is strictly performance or viability of running this reverb on PPC I can understand it not being PPC compatible but if the issue is the market and 'diminishing returns' and subtly persuading the market to update itself to your marketing model I am disappointed.

    ...

    I will probably use my G5 (as my primary music production platform) for another 2 years. If I don't buy VS at the current price there will be less incentive for me to buy it at the higher price for the sake of a reverb I can't use. I already have Altiverb BTW. Why not have an option for PPC users to buy at a reduced price but without the reverb plug included? (Or bundle a free macpro for all PPC customers? :) )


  • some observations to be taken into consideration too ... little companies like VSL also have to carefully watch the direction hardware vendors are going.

    for myself years ago it has been disappointing to notice apple turned away from motorola and later obviously ran into some discrepancy with IBM - we have never seen the power 6 processor (introduced 2007) in a mac what would have been a quantum leap in processing ... it took intel until now to catch up with this amount of processing power ... anyway ...

     

    on the other side apple acquired 3 *heavyweights* in 1) processor design and technology development as well as 2) a whole chip development company during the past year and they still have advertised a lot of jobs related to chip development.

     

    time will show if those activities will focus on computer development or just bring new iphones, tv-sets and similar toys to us ...

    as soon as product policy is noticed to be changing it makes sense again to reconsider software development.

    christian

     

    1) Bob Drebin (CTO of ATI), Raja Koduri (CTO of AMD), Mark Papermaster (IBM chief technology developer)

    2) P A Semi (specialiced on power processor development)


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • I have a only one question. Where is a early reflection control tap or knob or slider or whatever?


  • There is no specific slider or knob for controlling early reflections. We have made the control solution for this a little bit different than other convoverbs out there. To simply lower the early reflection level, you can set the volume node lower in the beginning of your impulse. If you wish to have less defined early reflections, you can set a higher value for the decorrelation graph in its early stage. Our decorrelation algorithm basically will act the same way as a diffuse acoustic material, and the resulting sound is usually very pleasant if you have any irritating ER's you want to get rid of.


  • I am hesitating to try the demo of VS, because I'm afraid I will have to buy it if I do.

    Currently I have all on one PC, but I am planning to use a second PC for the samples, probably with the help of VE Pro. The first PC would be running the sequencer, the second would have all the samples. Since my second PC is a quad core too, I would like to instantiate at least some of the reverb instances on the second PC inside VE to take some load from the first system. Is this possible or would that require a second license?

    Another question is whether the suite is compatible with 32 bit as well as 64 bit hosts. Do I have to decide or do I get both versions?