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  • Hi Heiko

    Sounds like a pretty decent mix to my ears. The only thing that stood out to me was the timpani roll near the beginning- sounds like the timpanist got left in the Dressing Room!  Obviously as it's not purely standard orchestral fare, it's hard to judge exactly how much realism you were aiming for, but having said that, by and large, it has a natural sounding environment. Well produced, interesting piece. Good luck.

    Colin


  • Well, thanks for your quick feedback! :)


    Beat, so you think stereo positions are too confusing and undefined? Well that was the main problem I had with this piece, although I was already using different depths of reverb on different busses. The pizz bass is actually panned dead center, but it's accompanied by pizzicato violins on the left and pizzicato celli on the right. These three elements drive the main groove. Hmmm... maybe I'll need to tidy the field up again some day, but right now I'm entirely sick of this. ;-)


    ct1961, what exactly does "sounds like the timpanist got left in the Dressing Room" mean? Are they sounding too dull, too far in the back, too upfront? Not exactly sure, what you mean.


  • Just sound very far back in comparison to the rest of the instruments..


  • Ahh, okay. Well, on the one hand I did this because the tuning of the timpanis is not exactly on point with the bass and since I could not make it shine, I buried it on the far right, which I considered quite a good solution. Anyway, your perception is very interesting and helpful. Thanks a lot, guys!


  • Alright, after thoroughly checking my project-settings and listening to the mix with fresh ears, I discovered, that I actually had a serious routing problem - like Beat assumed already. This practically rendered all of my track positions useless. :P


    Thanks a lot, guys, for bringing that up. I'll share the - hopefully - optimized version later on.


    All the best
    Heiko


  • OK, I have updated the file and I'm pretty happy with the optimization so far. Your feedback has been very valuable. To me the piece is sounding much more defined now. Please let me know your opinion about it.


    And remember: for me - at least for this piece - a clean and well balanced mix is more important than re-creating a realistically sounding orchestra.


    All the best.
    Heiko


  • Hi Heiko.

    Can't do an A/B comparison with your original file but, as I posted above, it sounds fine to me through my monitors. I'd be happy enough with it too.

    Colin


  • Well, you are right. Maybe I should have left the original version online for comparison purposes. Next time I will. :)


    Anyway, thanks for listening! Hopefully there will be some more feedback from other people out there. Any opinion is welcome!


    Cheers
    Heiko


  • Hello

    I really like your composition and use of sound, its very enchanting, the only real sound in the mix that I found a little intense was the picking during the sort of main theme (1:07) they sonud almost over saturated, very upclose in the mix.  Maybe bringing the strings when they are plucking down ever so slightly will improve that.  But still it is a great piece.


  • Thanks for your input, Andrew. I'm very glad, you like it. =)


    Well, I'm not quite sure, what you define as "picking". Do you mean the pizzicatos or the very high frequencies that I soar over the other instruments or maybe the muted harp in the middle or the clock ticking? Sorry, but I can't find any picking sound at the time you mentioned. Maybe you mean 2:07? Please let me know.


    Thank you!
    Heiko


  • Heiko,

    I liked this a lot. 

    Marko


  • Well, thank you, Marko! Great to finally get some feedback. =)


    I'll post another version soon, including some minor tweaks. Thank you all for listening. It helps a lot!


    All the best
    Heiko


  • Hey Heiko

    Yes i did mean pizzocato, i was ment to type plucking, but was typing a little to fast and amde a msitake lol


  • OK, then at least I did fix the correct thing. ;-)


    In the soon to be updated version (hopefully during the next hour or so) I pushed the pizzicato strings more in the back as you suggested. You were right, they sounded a little too obtrusive.


    Thank you!
    Heiko


    PS: seems like typing "a little too fast" is your style, eh? :D


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    I just uploaded the updated mix. Please let me know, what you think.


    Thanks!
    Heiko


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