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Hi Cyril,
Yes I use the Apple IAC Midi drivers. As far as libraries, I have all of the libraries that VSL has to offer except for the Special Edition. The template that I'm currently working with is a Modern Orchestra configuration of which contains the largest number of instrument/sections of all the Orchestra types. I figure if it can handle a Modern Orchestra config then It should be able to handle any Orchestra style.
HI Sten
I have a PCI Motu studio, I have put a light-pipe cable between Out and In
Best
Cyril
Sten/Cyril,
I also am currently using a light pipe between the in and out. I find that I can only have 1 of my 4 VE engines running while I'm recording my MIDI to audio without having some pops. I've even tried increasing buffers on the audio device. I've been having conversations with techs at Sweetwater on this subject. They believe it's a clocking issue and are looking into a possible solution. The Symphony card (Apogee) has a Vbus that routes audio but your looking at approx 2,800 for the setup. The way I figure, that's a slave computer - problem solved. My current approach is not a show shopper by any means because I usually record the individual instrument groups in their own audio track. The only disadvantage is that you loose the ability to do a quick bounce of everything.
I'm going to try an analog patch cord to see if performance improves. The negative to that approach is now the audio is forced to go through converters which may or may not be noticeable in sound quality.
Hi Chuck,
I was in the beta phase of the new SSL MadiXtreme 128 and it works perfectly with VE! I use it now everyday.
You can loopback the first Madi I/O and you have 64 channels for as many VE standalones as you want. e.g. 2 VE´s with full 16 stereo out each, or 4 VE´s with 8 stereo, etc.
For the second Madi I/O you have to get a madi to analog converter to monitor all your signals, or output them to a mixing console.
The SSL card has 256 I/O in total. So it is really VERY flexible.
best
christian
Thank's Christian. I went to their website and checked it out. I may definitely consider this option. Thanks again..
@chriskard said:
Hi Chuck,
I was in the beta phase of the new SSL MadiXtreme 128 and it works perfectly with VE! I use it now everyday.
You can loopback the first Madi I/O and you have 64 channels for as many VE standalones as you want. e.g. 2 VE´s with full 16 stereo out each, or 4 VE´s with 8 stereo, etc.
For the second Madi I/O you have to get a madi to analog converter to monitor all your signals, or output them to a mixing console.
The SSL card has 256 I/O in total. So it is really VERY flexible.
best
christian
The only downside that I could see was no 64bit drivers. However, that won't affect Mac users.
DG
Good catch DG... How responsive are they in providing updated drivers? -- When Snow Leopard arrives.
Good catch DG... How responsive are they in providing updated drivers? -- When Snow Leopard arrives.
I don't think that drivers for Snow Leopard will be any more problematic than anything else. There is a lot to go wrong in the transition to 64bit on Mac, and whilst in some ways it ought to be slightly less painful than on Windows, I think that the expectations of many people may not initially be met, much as they weren't with Leopard.
Regarding SSL MADI Windows 64bit drivers, they did say that there would be some eventually, but if I ever need to go the MADI route, I'll go with RME.
DG
Understand DG,
As far as Snow Leopard goes, I've made my mind up (learning from past mistakes) to not jump on the band wagon right away. Being on the bleeding edge is not what it's all cracked up to be. This time, I plan to wait a couple of months until the bugs get worked out and third party drivers, samplers, instruments, etc. are compatible before I switch operating system. Need to keep a stable system working....
I am doing the same thing as the original poster - running standalone instances via IAC.
The routing back of audio I accomplish by using JackAudio.
It does seem to be the best way to go at the moment. I had been struggling too with Plugin-Instances which only chokes Logic's virtual memory and ultimately crashes it.
@Crescendo said:
I am doing the same thing as the original poster - running standalone instances via IAC.
The routing back of audio I accomplish by using JackAudio.
It does seem to be the best way to go at the moment. I had been struggling too with Plugin-Instances which only chokes Logic's virtual memory and ultimately crashes it.
Hi Crescendo.
I managed to get Soundflower up and running but gave up on it due to persistent digital crackling. I tried Jack but cannot get the Connections Manager to play ball. If you find the time, is there any chance of a step-by-step? Would be much appreciated. Will be a while before I can stretch to a slave system. Cheers..
Colin
@ct1961 said:
tried Jack but cannot get the Connections Manager to play ball. If you find the time, is there any chance of a step-by-step? Would be much appreciated. Will be a while before I can stretch to a slave system. Cheers..
Colin
OK
1-Before Opening Logic and VE3, start Jack Pilot and go to the preference.
2-Choose the proper audio interface,
3-choose how many connections you need between your host and logic in Virtual input and output channels;
4-disable auto-connect with physical ports (you don't want VE3 to communicate directly with the soundcard, just Logic will be connected to It);
5-Star the jack server on Jackpilot;
6-open Logic...Open one or multiple instance of VE3 (you can copy and rename the applications) (wait until each software is loaded before opening another one or you will get errors);
7-Press the routing button on jackpilot and connect logic to the system output by double-click on the receive port section while logic is selected on the send port section;
8-Connect each VE3 Send Ports to Logic's Receive Port;
9-In logic create Aux tracks or Audio Tracks (in monitoring) With the proper input that match the output on VE3 (I have 60 differents channel because I monitor each instruments on different audio tracks. But you can try a simpler set up by grouping instrument to the same output.
There's a way to get both midi and audio on the same instrument track by using the External Midi instrument but It's gonna be to long to explain for the moment.
That's it for the audio part. I assume that the midi part already working with the IAC. If not, try creating a monitor object in the click and port environment and connect every IAC out port to it or it will do a midi loop...
Excuse my english, I'm french speaking.
Fred
Hello again Fred.
Just to let you know that I managed to get Jack up and running. Thanks a million![:D]
I had originally been thrown by the PDF stating something along the lines that, with intel macs, you had to create an aggregate device. No problem there, just selected my soundcard across the board in AMS, then Jack Router in both VE and Logic and it worked a treat.
I actually set up external multis in the Environment for each IAC bus and have no problem creating as many Auxes as I will need. Will finally be able to utilise my 11GB RAM. Having said that, I am yet to sequence some music to test it properly, so here's hoping the sound holds together. Encore une fois, merci.
Colin
Hi Chuck, Cyril, DMJ and...
Thanks for sharing!
To answer DMJ´s question:
...Doesn't the Fireface 800 software TotalMix let you route a bunch of tracks internally? Such as routing the VE channels out to another channels in (which would be in Logic). I'm interested if this works actually, I was thinking of picking up a FF800...
Yes! I finally figured it out. In the Fireface Mixer there is a certain Loopback function that allows You to stay in the software domain (control click the relevant out-channels, they turn red, and there You go). I'm working on it, expecting to setup five VE (2 or 3) instances as standalones and route all five stereo pairs back into Logic.
By the way FF800 is very good bang for the buck in my opinion - and so versatile, that at least I need a "FF for dummies"
Best
Sten
I read that too Colin. I believe that only applies if you use the default internal audio - not if your using an external audio interface.
