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  • Andi,

    Do you mind if I comment on Musiv's problem setting up instruments?

    It's just that something which happened to me when I was first trying out the VSL / Ensemble might be worth checking. It may be helpful to all beginners.

    I got into terrible confusion loading samples into Ensemble because I forgot to click on Instrument each time before loading. This was because when you click on Instrument 1 and then matrix select, on the left hand side of the interface one sees a vertical set of slots, the first marked 'C0'. I clicked on a matrix from the right hand list and it loaded correctly on the left top slot. But I forgot to click on Instrument 2 - I just clicked on the next matrix - for a different instrument sample and saw that appear in the next slot down. Of course I had just loaded two different instruments into Instrument 1! Actually I wasn't consistent in this, so I did load other samples correctly - but through not understanding the process I did keep making mistakes which messed up playback. To the beginner it is easy to assume that the lefthand slots is a single instance, when in fact there is a different row of slots for each Instrument in the far left list. I hope this is clear to anyone who is just beginning. Perhaps this isn't the problem for musiv - but I thought I should mention it.

    The video goes quite fast, so it is easy to miss the click on the left hand instruments.

    Another thing which might confuse beginners is that loading a sample does not automatically change 'Instrument 1' on the far left to the name of the instrument loaded - you have to type it in yourself. Then it will appear at the top of each channel in the mixer.

    Rikky


  • Guys, thank you. I wish we could all sit in the same room so I could show you what's going on. 1. 1 impotant thing, I use Sibelius 5.1. So that's also the sound set I had put in the silbelius' sounds folder. (I forgot to mention that) - I'm aware of what you've told me so far and doing everything you say. -The only way I could solve the Bassoon problem was by naming it (in Sibelius) Alto sax. God knows why, but it connects to the Bassoon channel in VE. Now, a new problem I have found. I have Vln 1 and II in the piece. they both coming out of the Vln I in VE. This is very frustrating, I wish it was simpler. I work with midi and samplers for over 5 years and this is very difficult to figure out.

  • I strongly recommend updating to Sibelius 5.2.5. Some playback issues have been solved in this version and it is free for Sibelius 5 users. It will also be easier to use.

    In Sibelius 5.1 it is important that you number instruments which are used more than once in a score (for example Violins 2 should get the Sound ID with the ".2" added).

    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • okie dokie, so, i finally upgraded to sibelius 5.2, and now, the string are stuck on stacatto (they would change to pizz but stacatto is their default if there's no articulation indicated, even when there are slurs they play stacatto..........

  • When you open Sibelius 5.1 scores with Sibelius 5.2.5 or Sibelius 5.2, please reassign the sound set and programs on the Manual Sound Sets page. Some program names and Sound IDs have changed.

    Btw: I hope you update to the "good version" Sibelius 5.2.5 and not just Sibelius 5.2.

    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • yes i did. and i redid the sound sets. the strings = stacattttttttto.

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    If you want to you can send me your score and Playback Configuration (xml file and folder with the same name) and I will take a look at it.

    Andi (a.olszewski@vsl.co.at)


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • cool. will send it.

  • Hi,

    A little while ago I did have the same problems with the chamber strings.

    Sam, from Sibelius, came up with the following solution.

    I quote:

    ...

    "If you use the built in Vienna Ensemble sound set in Sibelius 5.2.5 then you won’t have use the .n players extra sound IDs in the score. This is what I had to do to get the score playing correctly:

     

    Go to Play, Playback Devices and click the Manual Sound Set tab

    Choose the Vienna Ensemble device and change the sound set to ‘VSL Ensemble Special Edition’

    Go through the Sound Settings for each of the string sounds i.e.

    --

    Channel: 1

    Change Violin chamber ensemble to Violin ensemble

    Click Apply

    --

    Repeat this for each of the strings and you’ll find the sound IDs they are using don’t have a number of players on the end.

    I don’t think you need to change anything for the other Vienna Ensemble devices as you say everything is OK with them.

    Save the Playback Configuration and click Close.

     

    Once in the score open the mixer

    Ctrl+Click on the on of the Devices and choose Auto.

    Ctrl+Click on the sound and also choose Auto.

    This will mean Sibelius resets the sounds used for each of the staves."

    Yesterday I had the same problem with an old score.

    Applying the above did do the trick again.

    I'm sure this will help.

    Michel


  • I have the Solo String Matrices loaded in Sibelius 5.2.5 with the current sound set file from VSL playing a string quartet. The Second violinist (solo violin) part isn't playing articulations correctly. It gets stuck every time it has a staccato. The first Violin (solo violin) is playing everything fine. So is the Viola and Cello.

    Any suggestions?


    also any suggestions in getting the midi files for this piece into DP with correct articulations so i can do a good mix? Or will i have to write in keyswitches for everything?? anyway this data gets saved automatically with an export? Haven't done much between sibelius and DP.usually i use them exclusive of each other.

  •  Hey so i figured out my problem. The sibelius default score type for string quartet uses Violin I and Violin II  instead of Solo Violin,Solo Violin. I copied the lines into 2 Solo Violin parts and it works great.

    Still am wondering about keyswitching midi data... as per last post.


  • Hi lonkaiser!

    When you export a MIDI file with Sibelius, you can can choose a sound set on which this MIDI file will be based. This way keyswitches and control changes will also be included in the MIDI file.

    Best wishes,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
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